so who is it?

[tikay]

im glad to see the rules on flaming has changed on this site. if this was 2 less known blondes going at it this thread would have been locked long ago!

no consistency guys!!!


but hell it certainly is entertaining lol  handbags at 5 paces ! 

They are having a robust exchange of views, but doing so in a civil manner, & we are absolutely fine with it.

Long may it continue.

ive seen not so high profile blondes in the past do just the same and have the "robust exchange of views" nipped in the bud and the thread locked.

just an observation no odds to me whats allowed and whats not il just enjoy the entertainment 

Well I'm delighted you are enjoying it. We shall continue to encourage spirited debate & robust exchanges of views, done in a civil & adult manner that does not cause offence to our Members.

[JungleCat03]

Enough knocking Flushy.

Everyone knows Uncle Ben's have been sniffing around him with a potential sponsorship deal for agggges.

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[Wardonkey]

The allegations against Mizzi, were not that he took over a mates tourney to cover in unforseen circumstances.

He was alleged to have systematically and repeatedly 'bought' positions in tournaments, from friends and acquaintances, after they had already reached strong positions.

[tikay]

whilst the Betfair decision has most of us - & on that we must agree - a bit non-plussed.

No I don't think I do agree.

One of the keys to any marketing campaign is publicity.
Sorel Mizzi is guaranteed to get publicity, particularly given his recent history.

Also, given the publicity he is getting is for an online gambling site, I am not sure too many people will be over bothered by his previous minor indiscretion.

Taking Ariston's earlier point, I don't recall any of the 'anti-Sorel' posters on this thread, being up in arms when people have posted on this site  asking for someone to take over tourneys for them.

If his offence was such a big issue, why was it not an issue in these situations?

You really think "someone taking over Tourneys", quite innocently, is the same as that which Mr Sorel did?...... If it were the case, I'd agree.

Anyway, Good Luck to Betfair, & Mr Sorel, & I mean that sincerely. However, any chance that I may or may not play on Betfair has now gone out of the window - that's my right, & my choice - & I don't think I'll be alone in taking that stance. I prefer to play on Sites that have better ethicacy. I'm quite sure they'll manage quite nicely without me, & me without them.

[turny]

im glad to see the rules on flaming has changed on this site. if this was 2 less known blondes going at it this thread would have been locked long ago!

no consistency guys!!!


but hell it certainly is entertaining lol  handbags at 5 paces ! 

They are having a robust exchange of views, but doing so in a civil manner, & we are absolutely fine with it.

Long may it continue.

ive seen not so high profile blondes in the past do just the same and have the "robust exchange of views" nipped in the bud and the thread locked.

just an observation no odds to me whats allowed and whats not il just enjoy the entertainment 

Well I'm delighted you are enjoying it. We shall continue to encourage spirited debate & robust exchanges of views, done in a civil & adult manner that does not cause offence to our Members.

here here !

[77dave]

I cant be bothered to read back through 10 pages of this    so who was it?

[Colchester Kev]

I cant be bothered to read back through 10 pages of this    so who was it?

It was flushy, in the poker room, with a bowl of rice.

[77dave]

I cant be bothered to read back through 10 pages of this    so who was it?

It was flushy, in the poker room, with a bowl of rice.

Wow congrats Flushy im sure he will do a great job for them. He has been smashing up the mtts for long enough glad someone has given him a real shot at the big time. Better him getting the deal than so other high profile names i care not to mention

[tikay]

The allegations against Mizzi, were not that he took over a mates tourney to cover in unforseen circumstances.

He was alleged to have systematically and repeatedly 'bought' positions in tournaments, from friends and acquaintances, after they had already reached strong positions.

Which responds to Jakally's point perfectly.

The positon described by Wardonkey, if true, would amount to 100%, (no caveats, no line-smudging) - cheating. Because there is a clear difference - it's pre-meditated.

Imagine that - routinely - happening in Live Tourneys, when it gets to the sharp end, & the regular guys then started selling their seats - & stacks - to the "faces". There would be an outrage. 

[boldie]

I cant be bothered to read back through 10 pages of this    so who was it?

It was flushy, in the poker room, with a bowl of rice.

Wow congrats Flushy im sure he will do a great job for them. He has been smashing up the mtts for long enough glad someone has given him a real shot at the big time. Better him getting the deal than so other high profile names i care not to mention

 

[jakally]

You really think "someone taking over Tourneys", quite innocently, is the same as that which Mr Sorel did?...... If it were the case, I'd agree.

I think the intent is a little different, but they are both effectively the same offence.
I also think it is marginal enough to not be an issue in the longer term (in most people's eyes) providing he keeps his nose clean.

[tikay]

You really think "someone taking over Tourneys", quite innocently, is the same as that which Mr Sorel did?...... If it were the case, I'd agree.

I think the intent is a little different, but they are both effectively the same offence.
I also think it is marginal enough to not be an issue in the longer term (in most people's eyes) providing he keeps his nose clean.

The intent is a "little" different"? There we differ! The intent, IMO, is a LOT different

Anyway, it's done & dusted now, the bed is made, & we shall each make our own decisions on whether we approve or not, & what sites we choose to patronise accordingly.

Folks will decide for themselves. In my opinion - & I'm of no consequence individually, I recognize - but this was a goof of Ratner-esque proportions. Others may think it's all rather spiffingly good. Each to their own, eh?

[Pelham Boy]

IMO what Mizzi did was cheating pure and simple.

Let's say for example,i managed to qualify for this year's WSOP,i make it through to say day 3,i find myself at the same table as Phil Hellmuth and we both have plenty of chips,then a big hand occurs between the two of us where all the money goes in pre-flop,he has Aces and i have Kings (he always gets his money in front apparantly) but i spike a King to knock him out. As he stands up he says let me play your chips and we'll split the winnings, of course there is no way that would be allowed,so it shouldn't be allowed to happen online.

[ariston]

me and flushing going toe to toe on here isn't rare as we both have strong oppinions and dont tend to mix our words or back down easily. We will still have a pint at the next event and continue to take the piss out of each other though because thats what we have always done and there is never any hard feelings.

gl to sorel and if he breaks rules from now on then sack him plain and simple. The kid is talented and deserves a fair shot imo.

[taximan007]

I cant comment on the Mizzi allegations as I have not read anything about it (apart from on blonde).

As for Annette, who as far as I am aware openly states she started playing at the age of 15, if I am not mistaken this is actually "illegal" therefore surely much more a serious offence then "cheating".