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« Reply #60 on: February 21, 2008, 12:24:35 AM »

Im amazed. Why would you want someone with his supposed past to represent your online room?
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« Reply #61 on: February 21, 2008, 08:09:35 AM »

Im amazed. Why would you want someone with his supposed past to represent your online room?

FYP..he's a cheat and I'm asthonished Betfair are this stupid.
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« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2008, 09:37:05 AM »

It's a real shocker isn't it? The timing of this so soon after he cheated suggest that they aren't bothered by his actions.

And it hardly helps their moral position when trying to recover the money from the people who got involved in the "1st hand all-in collusion" farce on their 6 handed SnGs.
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« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2008, 10:57:02 AM »

It's a real shocker isn't it? The timing of this so soon after he cheated suggest that they aren't bothered by his actions.

And it hardly helps their moral position when trying to recover the money from the people who got involved in the "1st hand all-in collusion" farce on their 6 handed SnGs.

but ya all those guys will now get a sponsorship deal.
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« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2008, 11:18:38 AM »

Betfair has to be seen to be squeaky clean and helping to prevent cheating if its business model is acceptable to the sports on which it allows trading to take place. Hence the Memoranda of Understanding that they have with a number of sports to help those sports identify any instances of cheating for profit via the exchanges e.g. with horse racing in this country.

This signing is completely at odds with that approach. I think this is a bad move by Betfair and I'm surprised that the overall business has allowed it.
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« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2008, 06:22:21 PM »


Now that is an own-goal of epic proportions by Betfair.

Still, they've set out their stall, & punters have the right to choose where they play.

And they are actually larging up the signing!
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« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2008, 06:50:54 PM »

I think that this deal shows that these online companies have no understanding of the game or their customers.

I can understand when sites decide to take on a celebrity such as Shane Warne, good publicity and a marketing ploy with the aim to attract new players.  I also understand the frustration of many players who have worked their way to the top of the poker food chain, are regulary mentioned in, and in many cases contribute to the poker press, but are unable to achieve a sponsorship deal even though they have a high profile and are seen to contribute to the game as a whole.

However I cannot understand this signing at all, he is a good player, but that is the end of the positives, as a representative of poker being targeted at those who play the game is a major misjudgement.  Many players will be left with a  bitter taste over this.
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« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2008, 06:52:18 PM »

Is it Red??   If so good luck Tom
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« Reply #68 on: February 21, 2008, 07:55:42 PM »

anybody heard about there being no such thing as bad publicity? this will bring betfair into the limelight and attract a lot of new players to the site. All this talk of cheating is a little high horse from many on here- what sorel did wasn't actually classed as cheating at the time. It only was classed as cheating after it was made public and terms and conditions were ammended so it didn't happen again.

Can anyone on here hand on heart say they haven't played on someone elses account....ever? I have finished tourneys off in the past for a mate who has had to go out. I have played sats for other people before there was all this one person one account nonsence. Fact is the entry was paid for, they only got one stack of chips and 2 cards the same as anyone else in the tourney. I may be in a total minority but I can't see the harm in what zeejustin, jjprodigy or imperium did. Ok so one of them allegedly had 12 accounts entered into the *s biggy one week- fact is he put 12k into the prizepool. They didn't collude or chip dump as they never got on the same tables (that has been admitted by the sites). How come certain live pros still get invited to live events when they are known cheats and colluders yet a few internet kids are supposed to have a black mark against them for life???

I have read on here many times people saying I've got to go out can someone take over this comp for me or Ive qualified for this sat and can't play will somebody play for me and somebody does. Does this make any player who has done this untouchable? Is he branded a cheat for life because of this? Don't forget Annette played underage breaking many laws and yet she won the wsopE so nobody calls her a cheat and abuses her- in fact shes the internet sweetheart and has been interviewed and "bigged" up by almost every poker magasine/internet site (even here). He's admitted what he did was wrong and lost a lot of money from what he did so why not give the kid a chance, did none of you lot make rash decisions when you were younger?
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« Reply #69 on: February 21, 2008, 07:59:48 PM »

Good Signing. Sorel Mizzi's abs incredible.
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« Reply #70 on: February 21, 2008, 08:26:42 PM »

anybody heard about there being no such thing as bad publicity? this will bring betfair into the limelight and attract a lot of new players to the site.

I don't think it will. Only people who are already very interested in poker will have heard of Sorel and player sponsorship has virtually zero effect on people who already play a lot of poker. No one is going to change sites to play on Betfair's shonky software because they see Sorel in a Betfair shirt.

Annette is different - she brings something genuinely new and is, herself, a story capable of reaching new players. She is an excellent signing for a poker room. Sorel isn't.
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« Reply #71 on: February 21, 2008, 10:14:48 PM »

He's admitted what he did was wrong and lost a lot of money from what he did so why not give the kid a chance?

Nobody has suggested that he should be ostracised for life, just questioned whether he's a good choice as an ambassador for a poker site only a short time after what happened.

And "yes" to the other question as well. If that puts me in a minorty or makes me stupid, so be it.
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« Reply #72 on: February 21, 2008, 10:21:25 PM »

Ariston in shock betfair defence....
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« Reply #73 on: February 21, 2008, 11:15:53 PM »

Ariston in shock betfair defence....

flushy makes shock pointless sarcastic post.....standard
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« Reply #74 on: February 21, 2008, 11:17:39 PM »

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