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« on: February 20, 2008, 03:55:00 PM »

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080220/tpl-uk-britain-immigration-39349ed_2.html

Pasted for those who don't want to click the link...

Highlighted the truly stupendous parts.


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Probation planned for aspiring citizens
By Katherine Baldwin Reuters - 2 hours 35 minutes agoLONDON (Reuters) - Aspiring British citizens will be put on probation for at least one year to show they can speak English, pay taxes and abide by the law, the government said on Wednesday, in its latest move to control immigration.


Obtaining a British passport will take at least six years instead of five for highly skilled or skilled workers and migrants will only have access to full benefits once they have passed probation, under new plans presented to parliament.

Migrants who cannot show they have integrated into their local community -- through voluntary work or fund-raising for example -- will have to wait for three years before they can apply for citizenship.

The changes aim to entice migrants to apply for citizenship and integrate more fully into Britain, while clamping down on those who "languish in limbo" by living in Britain but not adapting to the local way of life.

"It is fair to expect people to pay their way, to play by the rules, to speak our language and contribute to the community," said Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.

Members of the European Economic Area (EEA) are exempt from the new rules.

The changes respond to public concern over the growing number of migrants to Britain following the expansion of the European Union.


As in other European countries and the United States, immigration is a major election issue. Britons fear migrants are overstretching public services and benefits.

"At a time of change we've responded to reassure Britain about the way in which we can control migration," said Smith.

Migrants will also be asked to contribute to a new fund to help communities cope with growing migration. Migrants deemed to be a greater burden on public services -- such as children or elderly relatives -- will pay more than others.

Britain has already made changes to its immigration system to control the number of incomers.

In March, a new Australian-style points system will come into operation that will measure people on their talents. Other changes include a single border force to guard ports and airports and the fingerprinting of all visa applicants.

"The next stage of reform is to make sure those who want to make Britain their home understand the deal that goes with British citizenship," said Smith.

People who break the law during the probation period will have their path to citizenship slowed or halted, depending on the gravity of the offence.

"If they cannot play by the rules their journey should be halted or slowed down," Smith added.

Migrants who do not want full British citizenship can remain as permanent residents, but they must stay on probation for three years -- on top of the initial temporary residence period -- before being granted indefinite leave to remain.


Now for the stupid parts;

1; People from the EEA countries are exempt (as they have to be by law) but this is a "response to the expansion of the EU"

Does anyone know the list of EEA countries?...If not have a look here;


http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTD004113.html

If you don't want to click the link..most Eastern European countries (Like Hungary and Poland) are already in there...so...what's this a response to again? The Eastern Europeans are exempt.

Stupid point nr2;

Contributing to a special fund and the young and elderly pay more towards the fund because "they are deemed a greater burden"... anti-discrimination laws anyone? Why would an immigrant have to pay more towards a special fund if they already pay tax? (which is the whole point of the excersise if you believe the article)

So what is the point of this plan other than to placate the right wing element (and only the unthinking ones at that as the ones that can read will surely also think this plan is a bit strange)? Once more it's nothing more than a ploy to grab a cheap headline on the back of immigrants in an attempt to gather votes and look tough, without actually doing anything.



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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2008, 04:02:07 PM »

Marvellous.

On behalf of the  police, thanks  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2008, 04:16:51 PM »

One in one out policy

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2008, 04:21:13 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2008, 04:30:32 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2008, 04:44:47 PM »

One in one out policy

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2008, 06:03:05 PM »

Hardly knee jerk!!!!!
Too little wayyyyyyyyyyyy too late.
Close the borders now i say.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2008, 06:38:03 PM »

Hardly knee jerk!!!!!
Too little wayyyyyyyyyyyy too late.
Close the borders now i say.

 
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 06:41:25 PM »

This small island was too crowded 10 years ago let alone now...you cant just keep letting 100s arrive every day. Its a mess...
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 06:52:16 PM »

send the midgets back to Germany
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2008, 10:14:11 PM »

 
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 07:02:16 AM »

If the welfare system encouraged people to go out and work as opposed to live off the state, we might find less people coming over to milk the system.

I resent having to work hard for my living so someone else can do nothing. I understand that on the whole, that is not the purpose, but I also know that a large portion of those claiming are doing so illegally by using false reasons or pure laziness. Not to mention those that outright manipulate the system.

Amazing, really, that the country we used as a dumping ground for convicts now has us all flocking out there to escape here. The irony.
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 08:02:25 AM »

send the midgets back to Germany

racist!
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2008, 10:43:53 AM »

send the midgets back to Germany

racist!

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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2008, 10:52:18 AM »


yeah that too!
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