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doubleup
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Re: A river over-call
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Reply #30 on:
March 04, 2008, 04:55:31 PM »
Quote from: LuckyLloyd on March 04, 2008, 04:51:15 PM
Do you play live tournaments? People play really terribly in them. Given the description of this guy he can easily have an 8 / stupid bluff and she might have a set or two pair. Seriously.
Just because ppl have a first name of "Mad" it doesn't mean they are stupid.
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bobby1
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 04:59:45 PM »
Llloyd, thats why you shouldnt make silly rash and disrespectful posts, you are now saying you dont even know who Turk is and have decided he isnt very good because he has the nickname mad, how would you ever know this if you were playing in the hand?
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LuckyLloyd
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 05:01:38 PM »
Quote from: doubleup on March 04, 2008, 04:55:31 PM
Just because ppl have a first name of "Mad" it doesn't mean they are stupid.
Quote from: TightEnd on March 03, 2008, 02:56:16 PM
Mad Turk, any two from any position
It really is this simple. 90% of the time, if a live player has a reputation for some sort of LAG and agressive game he is actually just spewy, loose and bad.
And, in any case, we start the hand with 50BBs and aren't on a paybubble. You could substitute Flushy or Jen Mason instead of someone called "Mad Turk" as the villian in this hand and I would reccomend never folding the second nuts and finding a way to be arrrrrr iiiiin at some point on this board.
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 05:05:27 PM »
Quote from: bobby1 on March 04, 2008, 04:59:45 PM
Llloyd, thats why you shouldnt make silly rash and disrespectful posts, you are now saying you dont even know who Turk is and have decided he isnt very good because he has the nickname mad, how would you ever know this if you were playing in the hand?
See my post above. To be profitable in tournaments you need to make them much simpler than you guys seem to think. You try to play well; get the money in when it should be in (i.e. this sort of hand); analyse and review afterwards; play as much as possible; and play your most determined and focused on the occassions you get to the endgame. Do that, and you'll get your share of rungood often enough to make money.
FOLDING THE SECOND NUTS HERE IS NOT PROFITABLE.
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 05:06:47 PM »
thats fair enough and I agree with you about the hand but why didnt you just post that in the first place?
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LuckyLloyd
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 05:13:48 PM »
Quote from: bobby1 on March 04, 2008, 05:06:47 PM
thats fair enough and I agree with you about the hand but why didnt you just post that in the first place?
Because it is difficult for me to describe how life tilting I find the posts on page one of this thread and the way in which you guys post hands you lose with the mentallity of:
"Did I do the right thing. I played it ok, right?"
rather than:
"This is a tough spot that genuinely stumped me and I feel there is merit to a few different lines. Can you please comment and help me improve?"
Added to the former motivation behind original posts is everyone's desire to be supportive and to be allowed their little speak. It should be ok to say: "That's bollocks, heres why". And it shouldn't be ok to post fundamentally incorrect advice no matter how nice the delivery.
Dino1980's threads are a good example of what posts on here should be like imo.
The answer is probably me not logging on to this forum ever tbh.
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Re: A river over-call
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Reply #36 on:
March 04, 2008, 05:18:58 PM »
Quote from: LuckyLloyd on March 04, 2008, 05:13:48 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on March 04, 2008, 05:06:47 PM
thats fair enough and I agree with you about the hand but why didnt you just post that in the first place?
Because it is difficult for me to describe how life tilting I find the posts on page one of this thread and the way in which you guys post hands you lose with the mentallity of:
"Did I do the right thing. I played it ok, right?"
rather than:
"This is a tough spot that genuinely stumped me and I feel there is merit to a few different lines. Can you please comment and help me improve?"
Added to the former motivation behind original posts is everyone's desire to be supportive and to be allowed their little speak. It should be ok to say: "That's bollocks, heres why". And it shouldn't be ok to post fundamentally incorrect advice no matter how nice the delivery.
Dino1980's threads are a good example of what posts on here should be like imo.
The answer is probably me not logging on to this forum ever tbh.
OI! How will I ever get into the mind of you lagtards if you stop posting?
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bobby1
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 05:21:41 PM »
Quote from: LuckyLloyd on March 04, 2008, 05:13:48 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on March 04, 2008, 05:06:47 PM
thats fair enough and I agree with you about the hand but why didnt you just post that in the first place?
Because it is difficult for me to describe how life tilting I find the posts on page one of this thread and the way in which you guys post hands you lose with the mentallity of:
"Did I do the right thing. I played it ok, right?"
rather than:
"This is a tough spot that genuinely stumped me and I feel there is merit to a few different lines. Can you please comment and help me improve?"
Added to the former motivation behind original posts is everyone's desire to be supportive and to be allowed their little speak. It should be ok to say: "That's bollocks, heres why". And it shouldn't be ok to post fundamentally incorrect advice no matter how nice the delivery.
Dino1980's threads are a good example of what posts on here should be like imo.
The answer is probably me not logging on to this forum ever tbh.
lol, 'you guys' does that mean me in particular.? I reckon I have about 5 posts in 2 years. It kinda intimates that 'you' are not the same as the others that psot. A kind if rather dismissive phrase I would say.
Again I agree with you, why didnt you post that in the first place then??
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AndrewT
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Re: A river over-call
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Reply #38 on:
March 04, 2008, 05:25:26 PM »
I like reading the tough love.
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LuckyLloyd
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 05:26:17 PM »
Quote from: bobby1 on March 04, 2008, 05:21:41 PM
lol, 'you guys' does that mean me in particular.? I reckon I have about 5 posts in 2 years. It kinda intimates that 'you' are not the same as the others that psot. A kind if rather dismissive phrase I would say.
Again I agree with you, why didnt you post that in the first place then??
"You guys" just mean the majority of people around here you like to heckle me and Flushy because we make 'rash and disrespectful' posts or whatever.
And I have posted the above in one form or another on numerous previous occassions.
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 05:28:53 PM »
Quote from: boldie on March 04, 2008, 05:18:58 PM
OI! How will I ever get into the mind of you lagtards if you stop posting?
I'm actually a nit. No joke.
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bobby1
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 05:36:45 PM »
'I' woudnt dream of heckling either you or Flushy, You have pretty much got the hand nailed and I think you are one of the better analyst's on the
board, you seem to be making some assumptions based on nothing, all you have to do is post on the hand as you see it, why the need for the incredibly rude OP?
Its because, as I said earlier, and you have later proven that some people think their view is superior to the 'others'
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 06:05:47 PM »
Quote from: LuckyLloyd on March 04, 2008, 05:05:27 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on March 04, 2008, 04:59:45 PM
Llloyd, thats why you shouldnt make silly rash and disrespectful posts, you are now saying you dont even know who Turk is and have decided he isnt very good because he has the nickname mad, how would you ever know this if you were playing in the hand?
See my post above. To be profitable in tournaments you need to make them much simpler than you guys seem to think. You try to play well; get the money in when it should be in (i.e. this sort of hand); analyse and review afterwards; play as much as possible; and play your most determined and focused on the occassions you get to the endgame. Do that, and you'll get your share of rungood often enough to make money.
FOLDING THE SECOND NUTS HERE IS NOT PROFITABLE.
Obv Tighty knows this LL. I think he was just trying to work out if raising was more profitable as it (usually) only gets called by KQ (in a strong game).
p.s Brackets added to sit on the fench "switzerland" stylee, im a drinker, not a fighter.
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LuckyLloyd
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 06:06:52 PM »
Quote from: bobby1 on March 04, 2008, 05:36:45 PM
Its because, as I said earlier, and you have later proven that some people think their view is superior to the 'others'
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Re: A river over-call
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March 04, 2008, 06:10:35 PM »
Quote from: LuckyLloyd on March 04, 2008, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: boldie on March 04, 2008, 05:18:58 PM
OI! How will I ever get into the mind of you lagtards if you stop posting?
I'm actually a nit. No joke.
I was gonna say, he is a nit boldie.
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