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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2008, 01:54:55 PM »

For all I know the GC may have insisted.



You think the GC may have insisted but granted Nina special dispensation?

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You think the GC may have insisted but granted Nina AND ALL OTHER CARD ROOMS special dispensation?

I've no idea. I do know that Nina has "special dispensation"  From whom, why and what the fraternisation rules are I do not know
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2008, 02:09:36 PM »

For all I know the GC may have insisted.



You think the GC may have insisted but granted Nina special dispensation?

EDIT:

You think the GC may have insisted but granted Nina AND ALL OTHER CARD ROOMS special dispensation?

I've no idea. I do know that Nina has "special dispensation"  From whom, why and what the fraternisation rules are I do not know

Come on now Rich, What's your best guess, do you think, in your professional opinion, while wearing all your poker related hats, that the GC make separate rules for Nina?
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2008, 02:13:31 PM »

No dtd tonight, Trace.

Still recovering from last night's lack of airbag moment

You've been on a diet ?
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2008, 02:17:28 PM »

My best guess is that Grosvenor Head Office know little about Poker marketing, do not understand how useful forums can be to promote their business and possibly had a fraternisation scare a while ago

They decide to issue an edict that staff employed in card-rooms should not post on fora

Staff at Luton are staggered given the promotion they do (and players do for them) on blonde, send Carmel into bat and Carmel gets a "pass" for Nina as representative

No other casino/poker manager within the Grosvenor estate, pre-occupied with poor casino drop, poor staff morale and costs, thinks to bother/does not care

they thus do not understand or appreciate the impact of a zero marketing budget for their poker tournaments...after all by not marketing they are keeping their head office bosses happy, and therefore do not mind canning mailed flyers, trade press ads for their events

Later in 2008 when numbers tumble further they will ask "why?" and market again

Just a guess.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2008, 02:28:00 PM »

No dtd tonight, Trace.

Still recovering from last night's lack of airbag moment

You've been on a diet ?

Tighty and I were involved in an unbelievable accident last night in MK and the airbag didn't go off - we are still staggered by it.
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2008, 02:29:26 PM »

My best guess is that Grosvenor Head Office know little about Poker marketing, do not understand how useful forums can be to promote their business and possibly had a fraternisation scare a while ago

They decide to issue an edict that staff employed in card-rooms should not post on fora

Staff at Luton are staggered given the promotion they do (and players do for them) on blonde, send Carmel into bat and Carmel gets a "pass" for Nina as representative

No other casino/poker manager within the Grosvenor estate, pre-occupied with poor casino drop, poor staff morale and costs, thinks to bother/does not care

they thus do not understand or appreciate the impact of a zero marketing budget for their poker tournaments...after all by not marketing they are keeping their head office bosses happy, and therefore do not mind canning mailed flyers, trade press ads for their events

Later in 2008 when numbers tumble further they will ask "why?" and market again

Just a guess.

So in answer to my question, you don't think it was down to the the GC then.....?
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2008, 02:30:31 PM »

No dtd tonight, Trace.

Still recovering from last night's lack of airbag moment

You've been on a diet ?

Tighty and I were involved in an unbelievable accident last night in MK and the airbag didn't go off - we are still staggered by it.

Perhaps the GC insisted.......




Sorry. I do hope that you are both OK.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2008, 02:31:49 PM »

My best guess is that Grosvenor Head Office know little about Poker marketing, do not understand how useful forums can be to promote their business and possibly had a fraternisation scare a while ago

They decide to issue an edict that staff employed in card-rooms should not post on fora

Staff at Luton are staggered given the promotion they do (and players do for them) on blonde, send Carmel into bat and Carmel gets a "pass" for Nina as representative

No other casino/poker manager within the Grosvenor estate, pre-occupied with poor casino drop, poor staff morale and costs, thinks to bother/does not care

they thus do not understand or appreciate the impact of a zero marketing budget for their poker tournaments...after all by not marketing they are keeping their head office bosses happy, and therefore do not mind canning mailed flyers, trade press ads for their events

Later in 2008 when numbers tumble further they will ask "why?" and market again

Just a guess.

So in answer to my question, you don't think it was down to the the GC then.....?


no. I was merely suggesting we do not know why they don't post and hypothesised a scenario to explain it
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2008, 02:35:16 PM »

My best guess is that Grosvenor Head Office know little about Poker marketing, do not understand how useful forums can be to promote their business and possibly had a fraternisation scare a while ago

They decide to issue an edict that staff employed in card-rooms should not post on fora

Staff at Luton are staggered given the promotion they do (and players do for them) on blonde, send Carmel into bat and Carmel gets a "pass" for Nina as representative

No other casino/poker manager within the Grosvenor estate, pre-occupied with poor casino drop, poor staff morale and costs, thinks to bother/does not care

they thus do not understand or appreciate the impact of a zero marketing budget for their poker tournaments...after all by not marketing they are keeping their head office bosses happy, and therefore do not mind canning mailed flyers, trade press ads for their events

Later in 2008 when numbers tumble further they will ask "why?" and market again

Just a guess.

So in answer to my question, you don't think it was down to the the GC then.....?


no. I was merely suggesting we do not know why they don't post and hypothesised a scenario to explain it

Perhaps aliens are intercepting communications from all Grosvenor card room staff except Nina?
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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2008, 02:36:38 PM »

No dtd tonight, Trace.

Still recovering from last night's lack of airbag moment

You've been on a diet ?

Tighty and I were involved in an unbelievable accident last night in MK and the airbag didn't go off - we are still staggered by it.

Perhaps the GC insisted.......




Sorry. I do hope that you are both OK.

The 'accident' was the film Vantage Point  Cheesy  Great film but the last 10 mins of car chases through Madrid with several head on collisions and no sight nor sound of an air bag confused us. And when Dennis Quaid emerged through a shattered windscreen wearing a shirt whiter than when he got in the car we were a tad puzzled....

Good film though, cleverly constructed. Sorry for the confusion!
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2008, 04:50:19 PM »

No DTD tonight, Trace.

Still recovering from last night's lack of airbag moment

You've been on a diet ?

Tighty and I were involved in an unbelievable accident last night in MK and the airbag didn't go off - we are still staggered by it.

Perhaps the GC insisted.......




Sorry. I do hope that you are both OK.

The 'accident' was the film Vantage Point  Cheesy  Great film but the last 10 mins of car chases through Madrid with several head on collisions and no sight nor sound of an air bag confused us. And when Dennis Quaid emerged through a shattered windscreen wearing a shirt whiter than when he got in the car we were a tad puzzled....

Good film though, cleverly constructed. Sorry for the confusion!

I did warn ya
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2008, 05:16:10 PM »

 

Grosvenor have completely lost the plot..
What with the Ali malu incident and the couldn`t care less about customers..... marketing aproach.
 Add to that a tiered management system that has every casino manager protecting there own intrests rather than the good of the whole company and in general not allowing staff at the sharp end ie casino cardroom floor a say in how the cardrooms run!....This all points to a recipe for disaster for day to day tourneys.
I used to be a regular at the £300 monthly at walsall but I will be switching to DtD £300 from April....
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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2008, 05:23:11 PM »



Grosvenor have completely lost the plot..
What with the Ali malu incident

Eh?
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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2008, 05:26:29 PM »

 
Old News Tom but mentioned it non the less...got kinda lost in New and Old posts.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2008, 12:34:15 AM »

Regarding Grosvenor Employees and online forums.

i recently got invited to a Grosvenor Merrion (Leeds) Facebook Group! i know its not a poker forum but it has the same similaraties and the new manager has set up a group to let customers know about upcoming events and poker schedules ect! i even got a personal message from the manager asking me if i had any suggestions on how to improve things. so maybe you could suggest something similar to your walsall grosvenor.

just thought id share this with you.

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