Turbo SNG bubble decision

[Boba Fett]

POKERSTARS GAME #16147571116: TOURNAMENT #81753955, $105+$9 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IX (300/600) - 2008/03/21 - 18:05:45 (ET)
Table '81753955 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: J-Rod Fett (2465 in chips)
Seat 6: Lhurgoyf63 (8275 in chips)
Seat 7: samir1971 (2335 in chips)
Seat 8: sibeco (425 in chips)
J-Rod Fett: posts the ante 50
Lhurgoyf63: posts the ante 50
samir1971: posts the ante 50
sibeco: posts the ante 50
sibeco: posts small blind 300
J-Rod Fett: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to J-Rod Fett [ ]
Lhurgoyf63: raises 7625 to 8225 and is all-in
samir1971: folds
sibeco: calls 75 and is all-in
J-Rod Fett: ?

Chip leader, after playing super tight and folding his way to 3 or 4 BBs has been all in the last 5+ hands and doubled the 1st 3 or 4 and takent he blinds/antes the last few and taken out the last few players.  I feel like Im miles ahead of his range here.  Do I call after the super-short stack calls and try to survive the bubble or should I be taking a gamble here?  Chip leader has been super tight until now so i felt like I had some fold equity if the shorty doubles through and we're still on the bubble.

Also, do I call here if the shorty decides to save his last few chips and fold and will be all in for the next hand?  I think I should be calling more often when the short stack is all in than when he folds but Im not too sure.

Thanks in advance.

[bhoywonder]

tough one

but a fold for me .. im a nit though

[Graham C]

I'd fold too, I don't see why you have to call here, if the shorty doubles and the CL beats you, you're bubble boy.

[Longy]

I would call. You are miles ahead of both ranges, chip leader should have ATC here and shorites range should be the same.

To bubble shortie has to win the lot and chip leader to win the side pot, that it is damn unlikely given we have the best hand most likely.

[Moskvich]

I would call. You are miles ahead of both ranges, chip leader should have ATC here and shorites range should be the same.

To bubble shortie has to win the lot and chip leader to win the side pot, that it is damn unlikely given we have the best hand most likely.

I'm no SNG expert but I agree. If shorty calls then I definitely call. CL is obviously shoving pretty much anything here given the other stack sizes, because the medium stacks can't call without a really big hand, and you're pretty unlikely to bubble.

If shorty were to fold and leave himself 75 chips then I'd think it must be a fold.

Edit, changed my mind about the 'must be'. Might be a fold. Could be a fold. Probably doesn't make much difference if you call or fold.

[boldie]

very easy call. The CL does exactly what he should be doing and keep nicking your blinds..he can do this with any two..I liike that play a lot (enough to have 2 i's in like and not correct it)..so you should call here.

[GlasgowBandit]

I call here as well.  Your miles ahead of his range, and if you win this pot and take out shorty your bursting bubble and putting yourself in a position to win.

[Moskvich]

Also, do I call here if the shorty decides to save his last few chips and fold and will be all in for the next hand?

What about this bit of the original question..?

[Longy]

Also, do I call here if the shorty decides to save his last few chips and fold and will be all in for the next hand?

What about this bit of the original question..?

Its a pass against ATC, given shortie has 75 chips. Its one of those spots given the antes where calling with kk would be close I think.

[thetank]

I must be out of practise, I thought this was a pass.

[bhoywonder]

I must be out of practise, I thought this was a pass.

my conclusiion 2 tank


anyways

when u gonna play live again...

y  kin legend

i will be there...thats all u need to know

tel her indoors its a man thing

they understand that

[Graham C]

Are you coming to the bash Tank?

[thetank]

when u gonna play live again...

Gave up poker for lent so I did.

Live poker sounds good.
Should be driving real soon (second test is in a week and a bit) and I'll then be free to dot in and out of Glasgow's card clubs with my Corsa.

I I fail again (very possible) I'll still sort something out, probably involving a train and hitting up SwordPoker for a place to crash.

Are you coming to the bash Tank?

Fraid I have to work that weekend.
Every time I miss a bash, Colchester Kev wins, sorry in advance.

[celtic]

Am happy to pass here.

[UpTheMariners]

its a call with the shorty in. fold if shorty folds. my call range here is jj+ here if shorty folds.