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M3boy
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« on: March 27, 2008, 10:16:45 AM » |
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On raggy no draw flops and you are being check called pot bet and check called on turn.
Do you consider checking behind on the river to be good play? Or are you missing value?
I am currently checking behind on the river.
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Graham C
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 11:31:36 AM » |
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I seem to get check raised on either the turn or river when people have hit sets. I'm checking behind from now on.
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Moskvich
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2008, 11:54:36 AM » |
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I'd have thought most check-raises come on the turn rather than the river, no? If they've check-called twice and check to you again on the river then I suspect you may often, depending obviously on all sorts of things, be missing value by checking behind on the river. Depending on the board etc maybe you get more value from checking turn rather than river, if you're only going to bet two streets? Allows them to bluff at you on river and may also encourage them to call a value bet thinner than they would on the turn?
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Graham C
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2008, 12:12:52 PM » |
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If they don't get the chance to check raise on the turn because you've checked behind, you're potentially offering it on the river though aren't you? If someone was going to c/r on the turn but miss out, they'll lead out on the river which makes the decision more difficult? Perhaps it makes it more easy, I just wish I could stop paying people off  |
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2008, 01:21:28 PM » |
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I value bet the majority of the time here as with this line we are ahead more often than not. Against most opponents will we have heard from them now if they can beat aa,by c/r turn or leading the river.
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LuckyLloyd
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2008, 01:43:25 PM » |
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Full ring or 6 max? 6 max not value betting would be a sin. Keep pumping till they raise you back. Then fold loads.
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Sunday8pm
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2008, 02:43:34 PM » |
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if you are re raising enough pre then you should have most of it all in by the turn anyway.
e.g
MP raises $2
You make it $8
Call.
Flop JT5
You bet $15
Call.
Turn 5 - Pot = $46...you have $27 left. Shove..
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Sunday8pm
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2008, 02:44:21 PM » |
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Full ring or 6 max? 6 max not value betting would be a sin. Keep pumping till they raise you back. Then fold loads.
Also if it is just a normal raised pot pre then i would agree with this line... Keep betting until you get raised. |
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M3boy
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2008, 03:36:49 PM » |
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Sorry, I should of said you are fairly deep - sitting with over $100
You have pot bet pre, flop and turn.
Again, this week I have had numerous occasions where holding AA and this happens. When I have bet out on the river (after being checked to) they move all in
Maybe my sample size isnt that great yet to be getting "general" reads ?
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LuckyLloyd
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2008, 05:20:31 PM » |
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Their lines are unusual at that level. Some bad variance. C / C; C / C; CRAI is soooo odd.
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M3boy
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2008, 05:22:25 PM » |
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That was my take on it, but just wondered if it was "normal" at this level
Cheers
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