Bubble in Satellite Tournament

[AndrewT]

BB has been fairly quiet. He's Italian.

Lol there is an oxymoron, Italian must be one of the most nutty/bad poker playing nations out there.

When I saw the entrant breakdown for the San Remo EPT it said there were 222 Italians playing. I imagined a broken cash machine in the corner of the casino spewing out €100 notes.

Italians are atrocious players - playing them is like playing internet poker five years ago. Anyhow, this guy hadn't really got involved much.

[boldie]

BB has been fairly quiet. He's Italian.

Lol there is an oxymoron, Italian must be one of the most nutty/bad poker playing nations out there.

When I saw the entrant breakdown for the San Remo EPT it said there were 222 Italians playing. I imagined a broken cash machine in the corner of the casino spewing out €100 notes.

Italians are atrocious players - playing them is like playing internet poker five years ago. Anyhow, this guy hadn't really got involved much.

[GlasgowBandit]

I don't think pushing with ATC is the way when its blind on blind, I think in spots like this a standard raise looks stronger, a push can be construed in two ways its either someone overplaying a monster or a steal with a bag of spanners.  I hate to shove with Ax Kx when x is 2 - 7 or some shit like that, we're likely only to get looked up with a stronger A of K.  I much prefer getting it in the middle with suited connectors (2gaps) or connecting cards something along those lines.

I agree that the BB is going to need a hand to call but also if he thinks your shoving into him with mince he may take a gamble much for me depends on my image at the table. 

lol..standard raise?..you have 5 BB's!

Which can make the play look much stronger at this stage of the game it looks like you wanting the call rather than an atempt to steal.  Although I understand that concept is probably difficult for you to understand been a while since you got that deep (since you stopped playing the stanley)

At this stage of a tournament on the bubble a standard raise can be anything between 1.5 - 2.4 x BB well it is for me anyway.   

It looks even stronger if you have been open-shoving once an orbit for a bit as well. 

[Graham C]

You're not overly interested in looking strong, you just want to take the blinds.  The shorty has to make a move sooner or later and if you give him a chance to come over the top, he's put you in the situation you want  to put him into and unless you have a strong hand, you probably can't call.  You need the chips and I'd be pushing all in then the decision is made, his only decision should be whether or not to call for his tournament life.

[Ironside]

*use of the word crippled does not imply that losing this hand will lead to the loss of use of your legs, nor does it imply that there is anything wrong with being in such a situation.

LMFAO

[boldie]

I don't think pushing with ATC is the way when its blind on blind, I think in spots like this a standard raise looks stronger, a push can be construed in two ways its either someone overplaying a monster or a steal with a bag of spanners.  I hate to shove with Ax Kx when x is 2 - 7 or some shit like that, we're likely only to get looked up with a stronger A of K.  I much prefer getting it in the middle with suited connectors (2gaps) or connecting cards something along those lines.

I agree that the BB is going to need a hand to call but also if he thinks your shoving into him with mince he may take a gamble much for me depends on my image at the table. 

lol..standard raise?..you have 5 BB's!

Which can make the play look much stronger at this stage of the game it looks like you wanting the call rather than an atempt to steal.  Although I understand that concept is probably difficult for you to understand been a while since you got that deep (since you stopped playing the stanley)

At this stage of a tournament on the bubble a standard raise can be anything between 1.5 - 2.4 x BB well it is for me anyway.   

It looks even stronger if you have been open-shoving once an orbit for a bit as well. 

You can not standard raise with any two..if you do and get re-raised you might have to fold your 8-3 off suit and then you are the shortest stack and next to go out...in other words...You're F'ed. You can push and pick up the blinds or you can fold...standard raising is completely out of the question. This is a sattelite bubble..standard tourney rules (where it's also deperate to standard raise when you have 5 BB's ) do not apply.

[Royal Flush]

his only decision should be whether or not to call for his tournament life.

[celtic]

2nd only to the french imo

[AndrewT]

As you can imagine, there's a 50p lurking in the original post.

I'm with Mantis - I'm pushing here with lots, provided my image is decent.

As it was, I had A4, so pushed. Villain insta-called with KQ. Flop was J74, turn T, river 9 to give him a straight - I'm left with a quarter of a BB and the villain managed to hit quad Jacks to knock me out.

With hindsight, perhaps the critical piece of info was the fact this guy was Italian, and so wouldn't have known about proper satellite bubble play. He just saw two big cards and went 'woo'.

[MANTIS01]

Unlucky. But it stands to reason that your pushing range should be as wide as your oppo's calling range is thin. Clearly need to fatten that calling range up for Italians who 'woo' though.

[Graham C]

his only decision should be whether or not to call for his tournament life.

Is that you agreeing with full steam ahead or me heading in to a train crash?  (not that it's crashing)

Maybe I'm getting there!