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mondatoo
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April 16, 2008, 02:19:38 PM »
I am not slating benitez for buying spanish as like you say torres and alonso especially have been excellent signings imo just saying that i don't like seeing a manager seeming to mostly only want to buy players from the same country that they're from as they know them best.Maybe this could be why man utd are so succesful in the prem. lge as they have a good basis of english players and then also have a mix of other natioanalties to blend into a great team.Many people have stated that possibly arsenal are missing one or two english playerd who would instill the english mentality and strength into the team.
Like i say though except for sanchez who blatantly bought the whole NI squad that he had worked with and new could kick a ball he took them to fulham and ultimately looks to have taking them down i'm not really having a go just saying i personally don't like it.
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April 16, 2008, 02:25:47 PM »
Rafa hasn't just bought players who are Spanish.
Arbeloa is another Spanish player he's signed, and he's also signed Sissoko (from the Spanish league, and ultimately couldn't pass a ball to a team mate). But he's also signed Agger, Kuyt, Crouch, Pennant, Bellamy, Mascherano, Lucas, Aurelio, Skrtel, Babel and Benayoun. So I don't see where he only wants to buy Spanish.
It's the same as the 'zonal marking problem' Liverpool have. Invented by the media, with no basis on facts.
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As i said a wasn't having a go at benitez and was only saying he liked to buy a lot of players who where from spain or played in spain.Seems to be roughly half which i guess isn't most but still a lot i think.
Arbeloa is another Spanish player he's signed, and he's also signed Sissoko (from the Spanish league, and ultimately couldn't pass a ball to a team mate). But he's also signed Agger, Kuyt, Crouch, Pennant, Bellamy, Mascherano, Lucas, Aurelio, Skrtel, Babel and Benayoun. So I don't see where he only wants to buy Spanish.
Interesting that out of all these players who aren't spanish that he's bought how many would get into a title winning side.Maybe agger,possible masch dont think any of the rest would make up a title winning team unless they where surrounded by 10 world class players.
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Does Wenger not get a mention
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Quote from: 77dave on April 16, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
Does Wenger not get a mention
IMHO Wenger is the best manager in the world for buying players maybe doesn't buy many english players(jeffers,wright.. cant blame him but does buy players worldwide.
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Quote from: 77dave on April 16, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
Does Wenger not get a mention
I rate Wenger as the best talent spotter also, but i know the gunners werent expecting much this season but the collapse near the end is a no for me!
Now if England had him in charge I really would be hiding - yous could win something.
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April 17, 2008, 06:41:19 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on April 16, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: 77dave on April 16, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
Does Wenger not get a mention
IMHO Wenger is the best manager in the world for buying players maybe doesn't buy many english players(jeffers,wright.. cant blame him but does buy players worldwide.
The difference between Wenger and Ferguson, when it comes to buying English, is money.
Ferdinand and Rooney cost the best part of £60 mil between them. It's much easier to be successful when buying that calibre of player. (Not to mention both of them are overpriced IMHO)
Ferguson's record of cheap foreign imports is pretty awful.
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April 17, 2008, 06:46:52 PM »
Quote from: GlasgowBandit on April 16, 2008, 11:20:24 PM
Quote from: 77dave on April 16, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
Does Wenger not get a mention
I rate Wenger as the best talent spotter also, but i know the gunners werent expecting much this season but the collapse near the end is a no for me!
Now if England had him in charge I really would be hiding - yous could win something.
Any manager managing England could win a football donkment.
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April 17, 2008, 09:05:48 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on April 17, 2008, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: mondatoo on April 16, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: 77dave on April 16, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
Does Wenger not get a mention
IMHO Wenger is the best manager in the world for buying players maybe doesn't buy many english players(jeffers,wright.. cant blame him but does buy players worldwide.
The difference between Wenger and Ferguson, when it comes to buying English, is money.
Ferdinand and Rooney cost the best part of £60 mil between them. It's much easier to be successful when buying that calibre of player. (Not to mention both of them are overpriced IMHO)
Ferguson's record of cheap foreign imports is pretty awful.
Nearly as bad as Wenger's buying English...
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April 17, 2008, 09:18:10 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on April 16, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: 77dave on April 16, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
Does Wenger not get a mention
IMHO Wenger is the best manager in the world for buying players maybe doesn't buy many english players(jeffers,wright.. cant blame him but does buy players worldwide.
i was refering more to the number of french he has signed over the years rather than the price or quality of the players
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April 17, 2008, 11:45:13 PM »
Quote from: Nemesis on April 17, 2008, 06:46:52 PM
Quote from: GlasgowBandit on April 16, 2008, 11:20:24 PM
Quote from: 77dave on April 16, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
Does Wenger not get a mention
I rate Wenger as the best talent spotter also, but i know the gunners werent expecting much this season but the collapse near the end is a no for me!
Now if England had him in charge I really would be hiding - yous could win something.
Any manager managing England could win a football donkment.
Yeah so true:
Bobby Robson
Graham Taylor
SVG
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Steve McClaren
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April 17, 2008, 11:50:43 PM »
Quote from: Rooky9 on April 17, 2008, 09:05:48 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 17, 2008, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: mondatoo on April 16, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: 77dave on April 16, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
Does Wenger not get a mention
IMHO Wenger is the best manager in the world for buying players maybe doesn't buy many english players(jeffers,wright.. cant blame him but does buy players worldwide.
The difference between Wenger and Ferguson, when it comes to buying English, is money.
Ferdinand and Rooney cost the best part of £60 mil between them. It's much easier to be successful when buying that calibre of player. (Not to mention both of them are overpriced IMHO)
Ferguson's record of cheap foreign imports is pretty awful.
Nearly as bad as Wenger's buying English...
Yes. Wenger's English flops are about on par with Fergie foreign ones. But Fergie has had the resources to spend in both markets, English and foreign. Wenger hasn't, so his flops are far more justifiable - he's had to gamble more. Fergie has never needed to buy unproven talent unless he's chosen to.
I guess what I'm saying is if their roles were reversed in terms of resources over the years past, I think Wenger would have won everything and Fergie would've won SFA.
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April 18, 2008, 10:12:41 AM »
Quote from: The Baron on April 17, 2008, 11:50:43 PM
Quote from: Rooky9 on April 17, 2008, 09:05:48 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 17, 2008, 06:41:19 PM
Quote from: mondatoo on April 16, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: 77dave on April 16, 2008, 07:25:25 PM
Does Wenger not get a mention
IMHO Wenger is the best manager in the world for buying players maybe doesn't buy many english players(jeffers,wright.. cant blame him but does buy players worldwide.
The difference between Wenger and Ferguson, when it comes to buying English, is money.
Ferdinand and Rooney cost the best part of £60 mil between them. It's much easier to be successful when buying that calibre of player. (Not to mention both of them are overpriced IMHO)
Ferguson's record of cheap foreign imports is pretty awful.
Nearly as bad as Wenger's buying English...
Yes. Wenger's English flops are about on par with Fergie foreign ones. But Fergie has had the resources to spend in both markets, English and foreign. Wenger hasn't, so his flops are far more justifiable - he's had to gamble more. Fergie has never needed to buy unproven talent unless he's chosen to.
I guess what I'm saying is if their roles were reversed in terms of resources over the years past, I think Wenger would have won everything
and Fergie would've won SFA
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and you don't want to be winning the Scottish Football Association.
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