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« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2008, 04:19:00 PM » |
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you just can't find the staff these days. If we had Scottish mods we wouldn't be having this problem  you do. bigger problem!
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« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2008, 04:19:07 PM » |
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slackers!
you just can't find the staff these days. If we had Scottish mods we wouldn't be having this problem  or German ones.
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« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2008, 04:19:58 PM » |
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or Bold ones
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« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2008, 04:20:22 PM » |
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slackers!
you just can't find the staff these days. If we had Scottish mods we wouldn't be having this problem  you do. bigger problem! We have a Scottish mod?..Someone from scotland?...You know..proper Scotland..not Iceland or Norway.
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« Reply #34 on: April 21, 2008, 04:21:09 PM » |
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you just can't find the staff these days. If we had Scottish mods we wouldn't be having this problem  you do. bigger problem! We have a Scottish mod?..Someone from scotland?...You know..proper Scotland..not Iceland or Norway. Yes.
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« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2008, 04:21:12 PM » |
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We do, a Paradise I hear. Albeit he keeps making a rod for his own back.
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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2008, 04:21:33 PM » |
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Ken Livingstone has a lot to answer for. the twat allows St Patrick's day celebrations in London (he even funds them) but bans St George's day.
having a parade/celebration in the capital would be a big step towards regaining the flag and some pride
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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2008, 04:22:15 PM » |
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you just can't find the staff these days. If we had Scottish mods we wouldn't be having this problem  you do. bigger problem! We have a Scottish mod?..Someone from scotland?...You know..proper Scotland..not Iceland or Norway. Yes. OH..just to clarify...he shouldn't be someone who also still signs on...(so that rules out anyone from Glasgow 
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« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2008, 04:22:48 PM » |
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no i dont think it is, but you get all the liberals moanining about english patriasm. Why shouldnt people be able to celebrate there own country especially in the country of origin
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« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2008, 04:23:56 PM » |
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no i dont think it is, but you get all the liberals moanining about english patriasm. Why shouldnt people be able to celebrate there own country especially in the country of origin
Maybe they should celebrate by having a spelling-bee?
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« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2008, 04:27:50 PM » |
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I think part of the reason (problem to some?) is that there is no real 'English' identity. The Scots/Welsh/Irish all have their own strong sense of identity (and on the flip side, stereotypes), but I don't really have a feel as to what 'Englishness' is (apart from that no one else likes us) and what I should therefore be proud of. I'm guessing that's because I've grown up in an age where our country has become a melting pot - perhaps things were different in Tikay's day. Not entirely sure about that though as the American's in particular seem to have a greater sense of patriotism than most, and a more mixed bag you couldn't find anywhere. I'm talking twaddle now.
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« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2008, 04:28:34 PM » |
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no i dont think it is, but you get all the liberals moanining about english patriasm. Why shouldnt people be able to celebrate there own country especially in the country of origin
Maybe they should celebrate by having a spelling-bee?  - yellow card for boldie for a low blow.
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« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2008, 04:30:05 PM » |
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I think part of the reason (problem to some?) is that there is no real 'English' identity. The Scots/Welsh/Irish all have their own strong sense of identity (and on the flip side, stereotypes), but I don't really have a feel as to what 'Englishness' is (apart from that no one else likes us) and what I should therefore be proud of. I'm guessing that's because I've grown up in an age where our country has become a melting pot - perhaps things were different in Tikay's day. Not entirely sure about that though as the American's in particular seem to have a greater sense of patriotism than most, and a more mixed bag you couldn't find anywhere. I'm talking twaddle now.
I tend to find that English people are proud to be British more than they are proud to be English. Nothing wrong with that IMO as British traditionally is the same as English (according to QI and Stephen Fry is never wrong)
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« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2008, 04:35:37 PM » |
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I think part of the reason (problem to some?) is that there is no real 'English' identity. The Scots/Welsh/Irish all have their own strong sense of identity (and on the flip side, stereotypes), but I don't really have a feel as to what 'Englishness' is (apart from that no one else likes us) and what I should therefore be proud of. I'm guessing that's because I've grown up in an age where our country has become a melting pot - perhaps things were different in Tikay's day. Not entirely sure about that though as the American's in particular seem to have a greater sense of patriotism than most, and a more mixed bag you couldn't find anywhere. I'm talking twaddle now.
No Claire, I think you've got a point. Only recently has English Identity been different from British Identity (something that annoyed the hell out of the celtic nations). I welcomed the resurgence of the St George's cross as it showed that no longer was it the union jack, rule brittania which signified an English identity. I don't think it's the melting pot thing - just that people have been a bit lost to find that British wasn't the same as English when the parliaments were created, England needs to re-establish her identity. A scottish sikh can wear a tartan turban and be one of the tartan army easilly enough - joining in with the national identity is easier for him, how does an english sikh make the same step?
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« Reply #44 on: April 21, 2008, 04:38:20 PM » |
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I don't think it's the melting pot thing
no I didn't think it was really, just thinking aloud and not really knowing the answer myself. What you've said makes a lot of sense though.
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