The Rangers SPL Debacle - Serious Thread

[TheChipPrince]

Back to Rangers, I dont think any side should have to kick off a cup final 40 hours after the end of a league game, but the Cup final should NOT be moved, extend the league if needs to be, but leave the cup finals alone...

Its not 40 hours though Rangers will play on Saturday the 10th of May then again on the 14th thats a full 3 day.

And why give precedent to the UEFA cup over the League? 

It was only a few years ago Rangers had one team for the League and one for Europe whatever happened to that?

Thursday, 22 May 2008
Clydesdale Bank Premier League
Aberdeen v Rangers, 19:45

Saturday, 24 May 2008
Scottish Cup
Queen of South v Rangers, Final, 15:00


Looks like 40 hours to me...

I wouldnt give precident to one over the other, just the logistics of moving the League games would be easier than Cup finals...

Different cups you guys are talking about.

Sandy

Yes, but same applies, move the league games if needs be, not the finals...

[cambo]

my post would be about 3 pages long, dont want to give the celtic fans (especially bandit) the pleasure. ill just seeth instead

[TightEnd]

"Scotland manager George Burley has criticised the Scottish Premier League fixture list for failing to help Rangers ahead of the Uefa Cup final.

"I think it's ridiculous that I'm naming the squad and Rangers still have seven games to play," he said ahead of Scotland's game with Czech Republic.

"They are being punished for their success in reaching the Uefa Cup final.

"And it's something that the SPL and everyone in Scottish football has got to look at."

The SPL had delayed its final-day fixtures by four days after Rangers reached the Uefa Cup final.

But that still left Rangers facing four games in eight days as they chase the European trophy, the Scottish title and look to add the Scottish Cup to the CIS Insurance Cup they have already lifted this season.

Russia's football federation postponed Zenit St Petersburg's fixtures ahead of the 14 May showpiece in Manchester.

Meanwhile, a meeting between the Scottish Football Association and the SPL rejected Rangers' request for a further postponement - of Saturday's meeting with Dundee United.

"It shouldn't happen to any club and shouldn't happen again in Scottish football," said Burley.

"It has to be looked at in the fullness of time.

"Europe's changing with the Champions League and Uefa Cup. You've got to change with it."


bbc

[bobby1]

The big prob re the Uefa cup is that Zenit have played a handful of league games as their domestic season has just started so will be pretty fresh and Rangers are gonna be out on their feet come the final.

[seven2unsuited]

News just in

In order to help rangers the fair fortnight has been moved to September weekend, which in turn has been moved to January.  Xmas day will be on march 27th, new years day to remain the same but will only last 3 hours.  Also everyones birthdays have been cancelled and pregnancy's to last 13 months.  Hope this clarifys the situation

[Rod Paradise]

"Scotland manager George Burley has criticised the Scottish Premier League fixture list for failing to help Rangers ahead of the Uefa Cup final.

"I think it's ridiculous that I'm naming the squad and Rangers still have seven games to play," he said ahead of Scotland's game with Czech Republic.

"They are being punished for their success in reaching the Uefa Cup final.

"And it's something that the SPL and everyone in Scottish football has got to look at."

The SPL had delayed its final-day fixtures by four days after Rangers reached the Uefa Cup final.

But that still left Rangers facing four games in eight days as they chase the European trophy, the Scottish title and look to add the Scottish Cup to the CIS Insurance Cup they have already lifted this season.

Russia's football federation postponed Zenit St Petersburg's fixtures ahead of the 14 May showpiece in Manchester.

Meanwhile, a meeting between the Scottish Football Association and the SPL rejected Rangers' request for a further postponement - of Saturday's meeting with Dundee United.

"It shouldn't happen to any club and shouldn't happen again in Scottish football," said Burley.

"It has to be looked at in the fullness of time.

"Europe's changing with the Champions League and Uefa Cup. You've got to change with it."


bbc

Why did George not cancel the friendly against Croatia?  Rangers could have played that week. As it was they had 5 players 'injured' but all fit for the Rangers Celtic game a few days later.

BTW there's been a lot of hyperbole from Ibrox & their allies about "everyone's laughing at us, no other league would do this before a European Cup Final".

BUT Here's Middleborough's fixture list at the end of the 2005/06 season:

English Premier Middlesbro 2-0 West Ham 17-04-2006  Monday
UEFA Cup Steaua 1-0 Middlesbro 20-04-2006  Thursday
English FA Cup Middlesbro 0-1 West Ham 23-04-2006  Sunday
UEFA Cup Middlesbro 4-2 Steaua 27-04-2006  Thursday
English Premier Middlesbro 0-1 Everton 29-04-2006  Saturday
English Premier Man Utd 0-0 Middlesbro 01-05-2006  Monday
English Premier Bolton 1-1 Middlesbro 03-05-2006  Wednesday
English Premier Fulham 1-0 Middlesbro 07-05-2006  Sunday
UEFA Cup Middlesbro 0-4 Seville 10-05-2006  Wednesday

[bobby1]

"Scotland manager George Burley has criticised the Scottish Premier League fixture list for failing to help Rangers ahead of the Uefa Cup final.

"I think it's ridiculous that I'm naming the squad and Rangers still have seven games to play," he said ahead of Scotland's game with Czech Republic.

"They are being punished for their success in reaching the Uefa Cup final.

"And it's something that the SPL and everyone in Scottish football has got to look at."

The SPL had delayed its final-day fixtures by four days after Rangers reached the Uefa Cup final.

But that still left Rangers facing four games in eight days as they chase the European trophy, the Scottish title and look to add the Scottish Cup to the CIS Insurance Cup they have already lifted this season.

Russia's football federation postponed Zenit St Petersburg's fixtures ahead of the 14 May showpiece in Manchester.

Meanwhile, a meeting between the Scottish Football Association and the SPL rejected Rangers' request for a further postponement - of Saturday's meeting with Dundee United.

"It shouldn't happen to any club and shouldn't happen again in Scottish football," said Burley.

"It has to be looked at in the fullness of time.

"Europe's changing with the Champions League and Uefa Cup. You've got to change with it."


bbc

Why did George not cancel the friendly against Croatia?  Rangers could have played that week. As it was they had 5 players 'injured' but all fit for the Rangers Celtic game a few days later.

BTW there's been a lot of hyperbole from Ibrox & their allies about "everyone's laughing at us, no other league would do this before a European Cup Final".

BUT Here's Middleborough's fixture list at the end of the 2005/06 season:

English Premier Middlesbro 2-0 West Ham 17-04-2006  Monday
UEFA Cup Steaua 1-0 Middlesbro 20-04-2006  Thursday
English FA Cup Middlesbro 0-1 West Ham 23-04-2006  Sunday
UEFA Cup Middlesbro 4-2 Steaua 27-04-2006  Thursday
English Premier Middlesbro 0-1 Everton 29-04-2006  Saturday
English Premier Man Utd 0-0 Middlesbro 01-05-2006  Monday
English Premier Bolton 1-1 Middlesbro 03-05-2006  Wednesday
English Premier Fulham 1-0 Middlesbro 07-05-2006  Sunday
UEFA Cup Middlesbro 0-4 Seville 10-05-2006  Wednesday

spot on Rod.

[gatso]

News just in

In order to help rangers the fair fortnight has been moved to September weekend, which in turn has been moved to January.  Xmas day will be on march 27th, new years day to remain the same but will only last 3 hours.  Also everyones birthdays have been cancelled and pregnancy's to last 13 months.  Hope this clarifys the situation

was slightly funnier 1 day and 1 page earlier tbh

Just to clarify.

In order to help Rangers, the Glasgow Fair Fortnight has been moved to the September weekend; which in turn has been shifted to January. Christmas Day will fall on March 27th, New Year's Day shall remain the same - but will only last 3 hours. Everybody's birthday has been cancelled and pregnancies will last 13 months.

Hope that clears things up.

[seven2unsuited]

lol didn't see it obv

[Josedinho]

Pointless debate. Celtic would want the delay if they were in Rangers situation but they won't admit it.

[seven2unsuited]

whether celtic would want it or not is not the point, any team in that position might ask to get the league extended but is it fair to the rest of the league?

[gatso]

whether celtic would want it or not is not the point, any team in that position might ask to get the league extended but is it fair to the rest of the league?

agreed, of course Celtic'd want it and there's nothing wrong with Rangers wanting it or asking for it

it's the whingeing afterwards when they've not got it that I don't like

[Rod Paradise]

Pointless debate. Celtic would want the delay if they were in Rangers situation but they won't admit it.

We wanted assistance in 2003 - were refused it by Rangers & the SPL - the only assistance we got was Dundee offering to bring a game forward into a free midweek.

The other problem with extending the league is we have internationals being called up for Euro 08 & friendlies before it. They now have to knock back the friendlies (possibly losing the chance to play at the championships), or miss the final game.

[dan]

I think the reason Rangers are pissed off with not getting their own way is that Zenit have had games postponed to help them through to the final and do get good treatment from their federation. I can also see all the other teams in Scotland not wanting to extened the season. It would never happen in England either. Yeah games get moved but not the final fixtures and Fa cup final.

I think the Russian league is at an early point in their season so its easier to re-arrange Zenit's games.

I just hope Rangers can come through this and win everything, it would be a shame if they came this far and became a victim of their own success.

[Josedinho]

whether celtic would want it or not is not the point, any team in that position might ask to get the league extended but is it fair to the rest of the league?

Do you want to win the league because you were the best team or because the best team were knackered/injured at the business end of the season?