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« Reply #525 on: June 14, 2008, 04:27:06 PM » |
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Holland Spain would be great game if/when they both win there groups when would they meet to very good attacking teams with weak looking defences
The best form of defence is attack though. So its all good. A see it would be the semis also no start again for fabregas wtf is that about |
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« Reply #526 on: June 14, 2008, 04:28:47 PM » |
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The Dutch defence individually is very weak imo. But as a unit they are a very solid foundation.
Agree 100%. Van Basten doing a good job of playing to their strengths.Would be great to see Holland Vs a good attacking team like Spain. I never get tired of saying this as I thoroughly dislike V Basten. V Basten had NO say in how the Dutch team plays. He tried several systems and they lead to embarrasing results (last minute winners against Azerbeijan for instance), the Dutch players called a meeting with V Basten and told him that they were fed up and didn't want to play his system any more..he had no choice..the players decided on the system they are playing now...he gave in during that meeting as he noticed he couldn't lay down the law so he OK'ed the democracy decision and that's why they now play the system they do. The only thing he deserves credit for is for listening to the players (not like he had much choice though) and bringing on Robben yesterday when we were already 1-0 up. It's wonderful...and i wish Ajax the best of luck with him as a manager...they'll need it. |
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« Reply #527 on: June 14, 2008, 04:30:38 PM » |
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The Dutch defence individually is very weak imo. But as a unit they are a very solid foundation.
Agree 100%. Van Basten doing a good job of playing to their strengths. Would be great to see Holland Vs a good attacking team like Spain. I'm very surprised with Boldies comments. |
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« Reply #528 on: June 14, 2008, 04:33:18 PM » |
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The Dutch defence individually is very weak imo. But as a unit they are a very solid foundation.
Agree 100%. Van Basten doing a good job of playing to their strengths. Would be great to see Holland Vs a good attacking team like Spain. I'm very surprised with Boldies comments. +1 shame england players didnt do this.Is he done as holland manager after the tourney? |
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« Reply #529 on: June 14, 2008, 04:36:47 PM » |
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The Dutch defence individually is very weak imo. But as a unit they are a very solid foundation.
Agree 100%. Van Basten doing a good job of playing to their strengths. Would be great to see Holland Vs a good attacking team like Spain. I'm very surprised with Boldies comments. It's what was discussed by Boudewijn Zenden and the footie commentator during the first match against Italy..the "democracy" style off footie...the players decide what system we play. V Basten took the AJAX job before the start of Euro2008..which was fine with 95% of all Dutch supporters. |
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« Reply #530 on: June 14, 2008, 05:43:19 PM » |
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The Dutch defence individually is very weak imo. But as a unit they are a very solid foundation.
Agree 100%. Van Basten doing a good job of playing to their strengths. Would be great to see Holland Vs a good attacking team like Spain. I'm very surprised with Boldies comments. It's what was discussed by Boudewijn Zenden and the footie commentator during the first match against Italy..the "democracy" style off footie...the players decide what system we play. V Basten took the AJAX job before the start of Euro2008..which was fine with 95% of all Dutch supporters. The other 5% being Dutch Ajax fans?!!! |
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« Reply #531 on: June 14, 2008, 05:49:41 PM » |
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the reffing in this tourney disgraceful deffo penalty
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« Reply #532 on: June 14, 2008, 05:59:53 PM » |
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the reffing in this tourney disgraceful deffo penalty
I agree that was most likely a penalty although the Spanish forward was running backwards so the ref might have seen it as six of one, half a dozen of the other, but on the whole I have been quite impressed with standard of refereeing in Euro 08. I thought that the Greek ref who handled Czech Republic v Portugal game was outstanding. |
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« Reply #533 on: June 14, 2008, 06:04:26 PM » |
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The refs have been best i've seen in a long time.very impressed.It looked a penalty though
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« Reply #534 on: June 14, 2008, 06:50:07 PM » |
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Villa Topscorer ftw
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« Reply #535 on: June 14, 2008, 06:54:08 PM » |
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helped by a last minute goal for once. wiiii.
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« Reply #536 on: June 14, 2008, 06:54:29 PM » |
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The Dutch defence individually is very weak imo. But as a unit they are a very solid foundation.
Agree 100%. Van Basten doing a good job of playing to their strengths. Would be great to see Holland Vs a good attacking team like Spain. I'm very surprised with Boldies comments. It's what was discussed by Boudewijn Zenden and the footie commentator during the first match against Italy..the "democracy" style off footie...the players decide what system we play. V Basten took the AJAX job before the start of Euro2008..which was fine with 95% of all Dutch supporters. The other 5% being Dutch Ajax fans?!!! yeah probably. You have to understand V Basten is a legend in Holland and when he was appointed we all thought it was going to be brilliant...and then he only started selecting Ajax and old Ajax players. V Nistelrooij was kicked out of the squad (V Basten needed him to come back when he found Hunterlaar wasn't ready yet) and we barely scraped through matches. V Basten is Cruijff's pupil...Cruijff told him exactly what to do and it backfired spectacularly..generally the Dutch people are now fed up with Cruijff and his opinions and his atitude but he's now back at Ajax (in some sort of roll) and so V Basten is going there as well..good luck to them..(well i of course don't mean that) but being a legend doesn't necesarilly mean you can make something of the mess that is Ajax. |
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« Reply #537 on: June 14, 2008, 06:57:03 PM » |
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« Reply #538 on: June 14, 2008, 07:20:22 PM » |
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The Dutch defence individually is very weak imo. But as a unit they are a very solid foundation.
Agree 100%. Van Basten doing a good job of playing to their strengths. Would be great to see Holland Vs a good attacking team like Spain. I'm very surprised with Boldies comments. It's what was discussed by Boudewijn Zenden and the footie commentator during the first match against Italy..the "democracy" style off footie...the players decide what system we play. V Basten took the AJAX job before the start of Euro2008..which was fine with 95% of all Dutch supporters. The other 5% being Dutch Ajax fans?!!! yeah probably. You have to understand V Basten is a legend in Holland and when he was appointed we all thought it was going to be brilliant...and then he only started selecting Ajax and old Ajax players. V Nistelrooij was kicked out of the squad (V Basten needed him to come back when he found Hunterlaar wasn't ready yet) and we barely scraped through matches. V Basten is Cruijff's pupil...Cruijff told him exactly what to do and it backfired spectacularly..generally the Dutch people are now fed up with Cruijff and his opinions and his atitude but he's now back at Ajax (in some sort of roll) and so V Basten is going there as well..good luck to them..(well i of course don't mean that) but being a legend doesn't necesarilly mean you can make something of the mess that is Ajax. Its a very intersting story and although obviously you personally arent a fan boldie this is a situation that worries me with shearer as a potential future newcastle manager; the man is an absolute legend and a god up here and a don't see that ever changing however, i and i think even he does worry that he could take the toon job and it may well go tits up as its proven that all great players don't make good managers and although no matter what happens he'll always be a god in my eyes its possible that his overall status could be blemished if it does go wrong, so the question is is it worth the risk, he never won nowt with us as a player so i'm sure he's desperate to do so as a manager and i'm pretty sure he'll be a future newcastle manager a guess time will tell whether it will be the right choice for him. |
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« Reply #539 on: June 14, 2008, 09:09:44 PM » |
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The Dutch defence individually is very weak imo. But as a unit they are a very solid foundation.
Agree 100%. Van Basten doing a good job of playing to their strengths. Would be great to see Holland Vs a good attacking team like Spain. Me too. The test for the Dutch will be when they go behind and their style has to change. I'm very surprised with Boldies comments. |
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