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[Rookie (Rodney)]

*** Handhistory for game 46828302 ***
Blinds $0.50/$1 PL Omaha - 29.05.2008 - 16:30
Paddington

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players: 5
Seat 1: mirchadh ( $38.25 ) - in game
Seat 2: name7643 ( $71.75 ) - in game
Seat 3: dogsbollocks ( $310.46 ) - in game
Seat 4: BaronSengir ( $184.80 ) - in game
Seat 5: GreenCar ( $221.44 ) - in game

mirchadh posts SB $0.50.
name7643 posts BB $1.
**** dealing down cards ****
Dealt to GreenCar [  ,  ,  ,  ]
dogsbollocks calls $1.
BaronSengir calls $1.
GreenCar raises $5.50.
mirchadh folds.
name7643 calls $4.50.
dogsbollocks calls $4.50.
BaronSengir calls $4.50.
**** dealing flop **** [  ,  ,  ]
name7643 checks.
dogsbollocks checks.
BaronSengir checks.
GreenCar bets $11.
name7643 calls $11.
dogsbollocks folds.
BaronSengir raises $66.50.
GreenCar............


We stacked villain about one round ago when we both had same hand but i hit my freeroll to the flush, pretty passive table, nobody has got really out of place. What's your play here?

[turny]

jam

[M3boy]

easy fold

[celtic]

err not sure tbh.

[77dave]

what is your reason for betting out on the flop here rookie

i dont think you are trying to take it down with a $11 bet.  you are looking action. well you got some i flat call the raise and jam to any friendly turn card. Board pairs then can let it go.

we know we are losing but we have hit the kinda flop we were looking for preflop.

folding here isnt the way to go. if it is the right play we shouldnt raise p/f or bet the flop. we have so we solider on


3 replies so far    1 says raise 1 says fold 1 says call  you now know all your options  lol

[LuckyLloyd]

we know we are losing but we have hit the kinda flop we were looking for preflop.

folding here isnt the way to go. if it is the right play we shouldnt raise p/f or bet the flop. we have so we solider on

No. You are always allowed to reassess your options on each subsequent street. Thought processes that go "I have to do X here because I did Y on the previous street" are lazy and incorrect. Ultimately it will cost you money.

[totalise]

I dont really like that overcaller on the flop, he could easily have ur draw in bad shape, I'd be likely to fold it here... preflop is obviously fine, am in 2 minds as to the flop bet, the chance of a c/r on this draw heavy board are pretty high, so I'd be more likely to just check here and see what happens, or I'd know exactly what i would do if i got raised.

[AlexMartin]

i like fold tbh. not big enough multiway im afraid.

[boldie]

Pre-flop raise is fine of course.

The flop bet is OK as well. I would take check-raiser for a set here...but would have to know what type of player the caller of your flop bet "name7643" is..do you think he'll fold his draw here (if he's on one)? If he will then I'd get the money in...if he won't be pushed off his draw I'll fold.

[EvilPie]

Pre-flop raise is fine of course.

The flop bet is OK as well. I would take check-raiser for a set here...but would have to know what type of player the caller of your flop bet "name7643" is..do you think he'll fold his draw here (if he's on one)? If he will then I'd get the money in...if he won't be pushed off his draw I'll fold.

name7643 is really tricky here. It might need us to call to give him his odds if he's on a draw. If we fold then he probably folds unless he's on a big draw. If we call then he's in and we've got a 3 way pot which Baron might drop out of if a heart comes down.

Assuming that Baron's on trips and name's calling with his draw does anyone think it's wise to shove in order to guarantee that we've got at least one pot that we're HU in?

If Baron folds we're HU against name7643 for $215 ($72 invested), if he calls we're HU against Baron in the side pot worth $226 (small profit if we beat him).

Obviously it could also go very well or very shitty but I just wonder what people think to this.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Ok, Name has been calling off flop and turn bets with Just and open ended draw on flushing board a few times, also he is quite happy to call one bet with just one pair. He seems a fish in these games.

[celtic]

sorry, still not sure.

[boldie]

Ok, Name has been calling off flop and turn bets with Just and open ended draw on flushing board a few times, also he is quite happy to call one bet with just one pair. He seems a fish in these games.

makes it a bit tricky but I'm leaning towards shoving in that case.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Ok, heres what happened..

I flat called the raise and 'name' folded... I was looking to get it in on any non pair turn - or obv if i hit any draw get it in. I was hoping for 2nd best at worst and that being a club.

Turn .

SIGH. He jams, which i found odd and made me think he cant have a set>>boat now? But i still passed anyway. Won Name's chips next hand though when he thought middle pair no draw was good LOL.

[LuckyLloyd]

Definitely don't like calling the flop raise.