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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2008, 03:51:15 PM »

the guy who is hacked down is attacking so in order for him to play the thug onside later on in the play he must've got up and moved into his own half so there's effectively no injury and the ref cannot blow. he has to let play continue here.

Doesn't say that.

no, I implied it as if the guy who was hacked down was in his own half then play would have been stopped.
you cannot play advantage when a straight red challenge involving serious foul play has occurred unless there is a clear subsequent opportunity to score a goal.
in all other straight red instances play must be stopped immediately no matter how good the advantage.
it's highly unlikely that the clear subsequent oppurtunity arose from a player being fouled in his own half



I reckon you're thinking about it a little too much.

Three yellow cards FTW.
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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2008, 03:52:33 PM »

just realised I haven't actually answered.

as played goal stands then player sent off ldo.

my fave answer on the BBC page

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The player who committed the foul is to be given a red card at the next stoppage in play, which occurs when he scores the goal, which is clearly a legitimate one. Knowing this, upon scoring, he can subsequently remove his shirt, swear at the ref, leave the field of play without permission, and kick the ball up into the stands, safe in the knowledge that he's gone anyway
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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2008, 03:58:48 PM »

it of course also depends on whether te game is played at Celtic Park, Ibrox or Old Trafford and whether it's a home player that comited the foul and scored..if it was it is just forgotten about, the goal stands and the player will be man of the match.
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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2008, 04:02:38 PM »

goal stands player off imo
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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2008, 05:03:11 PM »

just realised I haven't actually answered.

as played goal stands then player sent off ldo.

my fave answer on the BBC page

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The player who committed the foul is to be given a red card at the next stoppage in play, which occurs when he scores the goal, which is clearly a legitimate one. Knowing this, upon scoring, he can subsequently remove his shirt, swear at the ref, leave the field of play without permission, and kick the ball up into the stands, safe in the knowledge that he's gone anyway

It would get him a longer ban though - didn't Barry Ferguson (or someone) once get three red cards for swearing/acting a prick after getting sent off?
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« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2008, 06:11:50 PM »

it of course also depends on whether te game is played at Celtic Park, Ibrox or Old Trafford and whether it's a home player that comited the foul and scored..if it was it is just forgotten about, the goal stands and the player will be man of the match.

 
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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2008, 06:27:43 PM »

Blow up as soon as the chance goes begging and send him off. The goal should never get to the point it can be scored. Once it does I think you'd have trouble disallowing it. Still send him off after that if it does.

I'd have the referee replaced as well.
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2008, 06:30:21 PM »

A player scythes down an opponent, two-footed, over the top - a definitive red card offence. However, the ball bounces kindly for the other team and they have an excellent chance of scoring. You allow play to continue, making a mental note to send the player off next time there is a break in play. The goal opportunity is denied by a miracle one-handed save by the goalkeeper. A team-mate instantly kicks the ball upfield to the player, who should have been sent off. He is played onside by the player he hacked down and he goes on to score.

It just can't happen like that. If it is an excellent chance of scoring then it can't be in your own half !! If you are not in your own half you can't be playing someone onside.

In fairy land you can't rule out a goal because you should have stopped the game and sent somebody off. Goal would stand and the scorer gets the boot. If an epl game the ref disappears for a few weeks. If in the spl then you get slapped on the back by the spl/sfa.

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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2008, 06:31:13 PM »

hmm  tricky. As soon as the keeper pulls off the miracle safe the ref should blow his whistle and stop the game/.

And where do we restart from once he has sent him off?

Original position of the foul, no?

no, not once play has played on. this is not rugby.

Restart with a 'drop ball' at the position it was when the referee blew the whistle to send him off.  team who had possesion will end up with a goal kick, throw in or maybe with the keeper after it gets given back to them by the opposition.
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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2008, 06:34:12 PM »

You can always just wave play on and hope nobody notices 

Just after the minute mark.



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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2008, 06:42:48 PM »

Wait for the crowd to tell you what to do, ldo.
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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2008, 06:58:55 PM »

Game stops immediately after the challenge, offender gets sent off and treatment is allowed for the player injured.

If the challenge was only worthy of a yellow card then the game continues, the goal stands and the player then gets booked but for red card offence it is stopped immediately to stop scenario described from happening.
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2008, 07:43:18 PM »

blow for half time
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2008, 07:44:21 PM »

Game stops immediately after the challenge, offender gets sent off and treatment is allowed for the player injured.

If the challenge was only worthy of a yellow card then the game continues, the goal stands and the player then gets booked but for red card offence it is stopped immediately to stop scenario described from happening.

don't mind that either.
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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2008, 07:56:11 PM »

Game stops immediately after the challenge, offender gets sent off and treatment is allowed for the player injured.

If the challenge was only worthy of a yellow card then the game continues, the goal stands and the player then gets booked but for red card offence it is stopped immediately to stop scenario described from happening.

They are all fair answers, but the fact remains that play HAS been allowed to continue, and the best referees out there are the ones who can spot a good advantage and allow play to continue.. Blow whistle after save imo..
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