1st hand of $100 FO, unsure of turn line to b/3b from unknown holding set.

[AlexMartin]

4k starting chips, good structure, no history with anyone involved in the hand, optimal play on turn is......

10/20 blinds

3 limpers in mp/lp. I raise to 120 w  on the button. SB calls, rest fold.

Flop    . He bets 40 i call. Turn  . He bets 80, i raise to 300. He makes it 600. Best play is to................

[Jamier-Host]

Cry?

[Royal Flush]

Flat to trap!

Unless it's playtech then just get it in and they will call with 2 pair anyway.

[Jamier-Host]

Seems a bit weird betting so small.  On flop i'd be thinking flush draw, with the mini turn bet and following action making it look horribly like QTc.

Would prob call and give myself a nice tough decision unless it lands a pretty 3 or J. 

Am I turning into a weak/passive rock in my old age?

[boldie]

4k starting chips, good structure, no history with anyone involved in the hand, optimal play on turn is......

10/20 blinds

3 limpers in mp/lp. I raise to 120 w  on the button. SB calls, rest fold.

Flop    . He bets 40 i call. Turn  . He bets 80, i raise to 300. He makes it 600. Best play is to................

I probably get them in here...he's not going to fold anymore at this stage but might fold if the flush comes down on the river and I want his chips in.

[doubleup]

It wld help a lot if we knew whether villain was a genius or a 3yo child that had got hold of a parents computer.  I just cant understand his betting.  He can't really be bluffing, so his final turn bet appears to be an attempt to get value from a worst hand on a scary board or induce a shove.  What were his timings on the bets?  I'm leaning towards him having 33 altho deep and oop he cld have flatted pre with AK.  fck - have you made up this hand?  

[boldie]

It wld help a lot if we knew whether villain was a genius or a 3yo child that had got hold of a parents computer.  I just cant understand his betting.  He can't really be bluffing, so his final turn bet appears to be an attempt to get value from a worst hand on a scary board or induce a shove.  What were his timings on the bets?  I'm leaning towards him having 33 altho deep and oop he cld have flatted pre with AK.  fck - have you made up this hand?  

I see loads of people bet 40 into a 300 pot..they are all idiots

[AlexMartin]

It wld help a lot if we knew whether villain was a genius or a 3yo child that had got hold of a parents computer.  I just cant understand his betting.  He can't really be bluffing, so his final turn bet appears to be an attempt to get value from a worst hand on a scary board or induce a shove.  What were his timings on the bets?  I'm leaning towards him having 33 altho deep and oop he cld have flatted pre with AK.  fck - have you made up this hand?   

lol. I dont know the guy but this is a pretty standard line for the frenchies on playtech.

[FuglyBaz]

Bloody hell this is a weird one. I would've expected $100 FO to attract better players, but obviously not.

Never played this level of buyin so my thinking may not be applicable really. I know various players give the advice that you should see a lot of flops when the blinds are small. I can't put the donk on AA or KK preflop because of the way it's been played, but then again it seems that limping big pairs and flat calling are getting more common (from what ive seen in sng/mtts)

I can't work out what the bets are about. He bets a third of what he puts in pre flop. He doubles his flop bet on the turn then doubles your raise.

I'm probably wrong but I put him on some kind of two pair. Would they call a PF raise with hands like AK, AJ, KJ, A3 or Q10? Most probably. Q10 is a sickener if they have it but I think I am shoving here and hoping he doesn't have set of A's/K's or the nut straight.

Still in okay shape against the straight and if he has a flush draw then that is even better.

[MANTIS01]

I think the thing to consider here are the 3 limpers in the pot before Alex raises, and how that's going to affect the sb's thought process. Does he want to call a raise oop holding Q-10 with 4 active players and the original raiser still to act behind? It's not impossible that he's got Q-10 but i think it's more likely he's made a standard bad call with A-J. Then again his WTF betting patterns make the straight more possible and they were soooted. Also, the pre-flop situation is going to prompt him to raise his big pairs because a big multi-way pot isn't what he's looking for early on. So I think 3's are the most likely set.

Anyways you're not folding i don't think, so I'm happy to jam because i expect to be called.

[AlexMartin]

Guy actually had me completely befuddled. I know he wants to get it in on turn but i couldnt for the life of me put him on a hand. The b/3b line by this sort of player is generally the nuts but i cant see him calling a but bet oop with Q10. Only 4 hands i could see him holding were 33/AK/AJ (unusually strong line for this type of player though)/ or the more unlikely Q10. I ended up jamming incase a club or 10 shut down my river action and he made a gooooooood call with KK. Really didnt see it coming , just shows that w/o any history, dont get cute with narrowing randoms ranges. 

[FuglyBaz]

Guy actually had me completely befuddled. I know he wants to get it in on turn but i couldnt for the life of me put him on a hand. The b/3b line by this sort of player is generally the nuts but i cant see him calling a but bet oop with Q10. Only 4 hands i could see him holding were 33/AK/AJ (unusually strong line for this type of player though)/ or the more unlikely Q10. I ended up jamming incase a club or 10 shut down my river action and he made a gooooooood call with KK. Really didnt see it coming , just shows that w/o any history, dont get cute with narrowing randoms ranges. 

Ouch!!!