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« Reply #90 on: November 15, 2005, 01:29:13 AM »

The second hand is an easy fold, given your read of the situation. How annoyed with yourself would you be if you had bust out when he turns over AA/ KK?  Pros, and about to be pros, don't throw money away when they *know* they are beaten.

The first hand is tricky as you have to suspect he has the square root of sweet fa. You still have 3k if you call and lose.  Call?  It is easy to be cavalier with someone else's chips.

However, you chose to play a piece of junk, have got yourself into a nasty spot,  but can still fold with only a small dent in your stack.

I fold, and when he shows his complete bluff I console myself with Doyle Brunson's words along the lines of ' I've gone bust with bottom two pairs more than any other hand'

Weak? Passive? Moi?

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« Reply #91 on: November 15, 2005, 02:21:53 AM »

Hello snoopy just to wish u LOL.There is a terrific environment to make money from poker these days and it sonds like you r going to grab it with both hands. 1 dont worry about things being incomprehensible  after a session I cant even think what to order to drink or where the car is parked sometimes it  is to do with focus.so that should explain your gibberish notes.2 notes these can be a great help the best way to pull youself out ofthe bad times which sadly do come along. I personally use a graph to keep track of where I am for the year it gets pretty big by december,it doesnt actually go into games or venues it does however help you to keep faith in yourself when u have been dumped on from agreat hight for a few days it shows a steady climb from Zero Jan 1st to tens of ks Dec 31st.The belief in yourself is ithink u will find the most importnt thing. Once again LOL
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« Reply #92 on: November 15, 2005, 04:02:45 PM »

Hi Snoopy...

I've lurked on this forum for a good while now but have only recently decided to 'take the plunge' as it were and 'sign up'. I'm a professional poker player (for 3 years now) and wish to remain anonymous but I'd like to contribute to this forum by spelling out some 'home truths' about what its really like to play professionally as I have some experience in this! Hopefully this will help 'snoopy' over the months ahead!

I quit my job as a computer consultant back in July 2002 to 'follow my dream' and, with a bankroll of £20,000, I set about trying to create a living as a poker player. Bear in mind here that this was pretty much before the big time BOOM of poker so there were very few places one could sit down and do this sort of thing.

The main games I played (and pretty much still do) were the PL Hold'Em & PL Omaha games in London, Birmingham & Luton. Tournaments have never been a favourite of mine because there were better opportunities to make money in the cash games that always followed.

I started out by attempting to only play during certain times of the day. This meant that I planned to ONLY play between the hours of 10pm - 4am (when the club shut) and my budget was set at £500 per session. I didn't attempt to play every day and whatever the score was at closing time was the result...win or lose!

For the first 6 months I stuck rigidley to the plan. Some sessios I left a big winner, some a total loser, others break even. For the first 6 months I won a total of £25! Yup...thats right...£25. That was over 100+ sessions of poker. In the meantime my rent still had to be paid and my daily / weekly needs of cash still needed to be satisfied. My bankroll which started at £20k now stood at £12k. I was an unhappy bunny!

I discovered the Internet in early 2003 and found salvation in the games on Partypoker. I stopped playing as much 'live' poker and concentrated on the web. The victory of Mr Moneymaker brought in a great load of 'beginners' and I finished 2003 with a +£18,000. It didn't last!

Throughout 2004 and to present day players have become more experienced on-line and its now very difficult to find 'easy' money. All tournaments are generally crapshoots with 700+ runners on the majority of NL events with a buy-in of $30+ and it got really tough to make progress. Remember as well that whilst I played 'live' I could only lose the £500 in my pocket...on-line I always have access to my entire bankroll on the site I'm playing on and it certainly is not easy sometimes to stay away from your resources after suffering at the hands of AA versus junk mentality!

Whilst I would play upto 18 hours a day during 2004 I'm now back to just 6-8 hours. I suffered a lot with burnout in 2004 and its easy to play too much!

Anyway my results this year are ok, if not in the stellar earnings bracket, and knowing that my bed is just a few feet away from my PC makes losing just that easier to bear as it means I don't dwell on my losses for too long as I'm asleep Smiley

Good luck to Snoopy but its no fun and plays havoc with your social life!
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« Reply #93 on: November 15, 2005, 05:51:53 PM »

An illuminating post Jellybean.

Does anyone else think that what we have seen over the last couple of years is an exponential acceleration in the collective wisdom of the poker playing community? There is so much information about how to improve your game available to people that anyone who has the inclination can easily raise themselves above the absolute fish level without too much bother. Previously it may have taken a novice player many months or years of learning things the hard (and expensive) way before they lost their scales.

Once you get up to the bigger money tables, everyone more or less knows what they are doing, because those who don't are much more likely to be playing in the smaller games, which were much harder to find back in ye olde dayes. I assume that in the days before the internet poker boom, bigger money live games had more fish simply because there was nowhere else for the fish to play.

Also, many of the people earning mega bucks playing on the internet are teenagers/early 20-somethings who are still living at home and have no real expenses as such - any money they make is almost pure bankroll.
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« Reply #94 on: November 15, 2005, 05:58:58 PM »

The vast majority of poker players lose. This means there will always be a high number/percentage of fish.

Your notes on players should always be upgraded and you should continually look for new fish and reassess notes on older fish but to say the whole poker playing community is better is incorrect IMO.

Those who learn are replaced by new fish coming into the game.
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« Reply #95 on: November 15, 2005, 06:28:26 PM »

Those who learn are replaced by new fish coming into the game.

Yes, but wouldn't you say that the fish generally come into the game at a lower-level game than they did before the internet poker boom, and so are not likely to make it to the bigger games unless they improve their play?
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« Reply #96 on: November 17, 2005, 08:36:42 PM »

THE SPICE OF LIFE

It’s the eve of my pending unemployment, and I’m in reflective mood after rereading jellybean’s post. When I read the title, I gulped nervously, half expecting a post of hatred from an enemy I had perhaps unknowingly made. I braced myself for some abuse, perhaps even mockery regarding my recent decision. To my relief however, these were ‘home truths’ about poker as a career, rather than a stab at me personally.

I ploughed through his post with one eyebrow raised. Some of the comments he made would make anyone think twice about playing.

‘it means I don't dwell on my losses for too long as I'm asleep’

‘it’s no fun’

‘plays havoc with your social life’

Blimey, jellybean! Morose to say the least, and I’m sincerely sorry that you’ve had an unhappy time playing full-time. However, it’s important to examine these angles, and so, in hindsight, I’m glad you posted.

My response is this:

The last thing I want to do is to relinquish my enjoyment of the game. This is perhaps one of the biggest fears I have about going full-time. I’ve lived and breathed this wonderful game for 4 years now, and I’ve enjoyed every minute of it. Whether I’ve been suffering bad-beats or celebrating big wins, I’ve continually received that thrill that we all pine for. During that time, my interest for the game has seldom threatened to fade and, if anything, has culminated from an interest into a passion.

So, therefore, I will do everything I can to maintain this. If I ever reach a stage where I wake up downhearted, bracing myself for up to 18 hours of monotonous poker, then I just won’t continue. Simple as that. I’ll drop it all and look for some other way to earn an income. The only reason why I decided to quit my job was because I was bored and unhappy. If those feelings were to transfer over to my poker life, then I’d make a change.

That’s easier said than done though. So what should I be doing to combat this possibility of monotony? Well, it all depends on the individual, but, from liaising (yes, I can speak posh sometimes) with various others, I have come up with the following guidelines:


Take Plenty of Breaks

For me personally, this is a must. Whilst I intend to work on my mental stamina, it isn’t currently at the level I want it to be. Therefore, I shall be taking multiple breaks and focussing on shorter sessions in order to keep my mind fresh and alert. My losses seem to be dependent on silly mistakes resulting from a lack of focus, rather than a skill inferiority. In both tournaments and ring games, I find that these rare, but vital, mistakes are the difference between profit and loss. Therefore, if I can minimise these errors by keeping my mind on the ball, then I should increase my chances of success.

This also extends to the long-term. If I feel myself slipping into a hypnotised robotic state of poker playing, then I’ll perhaps take a day or two off. Hopefully, this will not only revitalise my poker brain, but also my enthusiasm for the game.

The hardest part I find is being able to detect when these situations arise. However, I feel as though I’m becoming more aware of when a break is required and being able to act by temporarily pulling the plug.


Get Some Fresh Air!

Your average online poker pro seems to have a fear for the outside world. A life living as a hermit within the surroundings of just one room. Now that’s scary!

Scarey, but sometimes true. This is something I’m just not prepared to accept. Being a cool, hip dashingly handsome youngster, it would just be a crime to the ladies out there if I locked myself in my room 24/7 and just played non-stop poker. To me, playing poker full-time doesn’t mean spending all day and night in front of the computer. It means playing little more than several hours during the day to earn a crust, and then getting yourself out and about whilst you’re poker free.

If you were playing up to 18 hours a day, then I’m not surprised you weren’t enjoying it. And if that’s how long you believed you needed to spend playing to earn enough, then I would have suggested that you looked for another way of making a living. I’m not in a position to preach, but that’s just the way I look at it.

So, in essence, what I’m saying is that I will be doing what I can to make sure that I have a life outside poker. Although playing a mixture of live and online poker goes someway to keep things fresh, it’s still important to have more than 1 hobby.

I will hit the road, visit my buddies, write, read, etc, etc. Anything that can keep my mind off poker whilst I’m not playing. I’m passionate about the game, but I can’t afford to become obsessed. Doing so puts my enjoyment of the game in jeopardy.

Even if a multi forces you into a longer than normal session, then why not move the laptop around. Play in the lounge, study, kitchen, even the garden if it’s sunny. RED-DOG told me that he always tries to move around, just to keep himself alert, whilst also preventing cramp. He’s getting old you see.


Mix It Up

There’s more than 1 type of game, there’s more than 1 site, there’s more than 1 level. You don’t just have to play the same game over and over and over again. I consider myself to be relatively apt at Hold-Em, Omaha, & Omaha High Low, be it pot-limit, no-limit, or sometimes even limit. My most profitable game is still NL Texas, but that doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t ambush the other tables. My profit might not be as good playing PL Omaha High Low, but at least it’ll keep my brain active and prevent me from becoming bored by the one game.

Similarly, I make most of my money from cash games, but I can still earn a little from STTs. Maybe I can even work on my game so that my STT skills reach the same level. That’d be a challenge and would make a change from the daily cash game routine.

Poker can be a broad game. There are so many options. You don’t just have to play $2/4 NL Hold ‘Em, day in day out, facing the same players over and over again. This will undoubtedly lead to monotony and boredom. Therefore, I’ll be mixing it up and trying to maintain a healthy balance between making money and enjoying the game.


Set Yourself Goals

I thank The_Baron for this one, I think it’s an important point.

It’s a bit geeky, but I’m going to write down a list of potential, but realistic, achievements that I hope to hold by next June. These can range from winning a live comp, earning a certain online amount, going to Vegas, and so on. I’ll then add the odd non-poker goal, just so my life doesn’t become completely centred around poker.

Hopefully, this will keep me focused, whilst also ensuring that I don’t become stuck in a rut. That is one of the things that happened at work. I ended up getting up each day and trundling off to work, unsure as to why I was going and what exactly I wanted to achieve. I thought about what I’d be doing in a year’s, and it scared the crap out of me when I pictured myself sitting at the same desk, doing the same things.

It’s important to have aims, whatever they may be. It keeps the heart pumping and the blood circulating. Gives you a bit more drive in life. If I reach a goal, I will create a new one. A ladder structure of sorts in which each rung becomes a new level that I wish to aspire to.


So, there you have it…

Hopefully, if I can adopt these guidelines into my daily poker life, then I stand a better chance of maintaining the balance between enjoyment and profit. Of course, there will be times when it all feels a little stagnant, but the key is in being able to identify these points and doing something about it.

Let’s not forget the advantages of playing poker fulltime. Get up when you want, play when you want, eat and sleep when you want, no boss, nobody watching over you. These are luxuries that I dreamt of whilst sitting at my desk at work. Now I have a chance to live them. It may go wrong and I could find myself back at the 9-5 job, but at least I won’t have any regrets. Least I’ll be able to say I gave it a shot…

I appreciate the post, jellybean, it should be very insightful to those expecting full-time poker to be an easy ride. I can promise you that I am not one of those players and I don’t intend to be naïve about my decision. Your words have encouraged me to retrace these steps and clarify them in my head.

Thanks for your good luck message and I’m glad to hear that your results have improved.

Snoops snoopy

ps. My next post will be less serious...promise.  dad dont dance
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« Reply #97 on: November 18, 2005, 04:56:16 AM »

Last day of servitude today snoops, my wet and cold nosed friend. I wish you all the best in your new found freedom.
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« Reply #98 on: November 18, 2005, 11:07:56 AM »

Here's to a bright new future my Beagle nosed friend!

good luck, starting at Walsall next week I hope
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« Reply #99 on: November 18, 2005, 11:12:21 AM »

Not much else to say about your nose, except take it off the work grindstone and put it onto the poker grindstone

What am I talking about??? Ignore the gibberish and enjoy the rest of your life
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« Reply #100 on: November 18, 2005, 11:37:40 AM »

Deep Breath, hold ya nose and dive in, tread water for short while, doggy paddle after for a bit and then you should be able to advance to front crawl.

Best of Luck
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« Reply #101 on: November 18, 2005, 07:50:31 PM »

Big Day For You Snoop.

New Beginings and All That.

Best of luck in the coming weeks.  Hope it all works out well for you.
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« Reply #102 on: November 18, 2005, 07:55:36 PM »

Me Too Snoopy.. I truly hope it does work out.. I am so envious of you. GL> xx
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« Reply #103 on: November 18, 2005, 08:11:19 PM »

The time is finally here now huh? Cool

Mate I'm not even slightly concerned for you. If I was half as informed and prepared as you are now when I "took the plunge" I'd have been over the moon and would have made a much better start at it - as I'm sure you will.

You obviously have the skill and the focus - just keep the drive and determination and you'll not only be great at it - you might even like it! Smiley

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I'm sure I'll see you before but if not I'll see you at the Rio baybee!
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« Reply #104 on: November 18, 2005, 09:37:04 PM »

I just caught up with this thread today and its good reading, gl snoops m8 i look foward to clashing over the green felt!
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