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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2008, 07:02:20 PM » |
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Bongos' solution would create a situation where the bowler could just bowl from the legside towards leg stump. Very defensive and difficult to score off, not very exciting to watch.
you've lost me there. a bowler can do that under the current rules. what do you mean that would be different? |
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2008, 07:15:41 PM » |
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Bongos' solution would create a situation where the bowler could just bowl from the legside towards leg stump. Very defensive and difficult to score off, not very exciting to watch.
you've lost me there. a bowler can do that under the current rules. what do you mean that would be different? You can do it under the current rules, but if the ball pitches outside leg stump the batsman cannot be given out lbw. If the ball pitches outside off stump the batsman can only be given out if he is not playing a shot. So under the current rule a batsman can just kick a ball away if it pitches outside leg making legside bowling much less attractive to the bowler. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2008, 07:19:36 PM » |
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Bongos' solution would create a situation where the bowler could just bowl from the legside towards leg stump. Very defensive and difficult to score off, not very exciting to watch.
you've lost me there. a bowler can do that under the current rules. what do you mean that would be different? True, but at the moment, bowling legside towards leg stump means no LBW's and more than likely more wides. Quite happy for the MCC to make this decision. There can't be any changes to LBW or wides, keeping it the same is the only way forward. Has anyone tried to actually do the switch hitting?? Its bloody hard to do, so credit to Pietersen. |
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2008, 07:23:45 PM » |
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but if they bowl from legside towards leg there'll be no lbw as long as the batsman plays a shot (or pretends to) as he won't be hit in line
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2008, 07:38:36 PM » |
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Hmmm, I'm not so sure anymore. They changed the law to discourage legside bowling, but the game has moved on since then....
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2008, 07:42:30 PM » |
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Bongos' solution would create a situation where the bowler could just bowl from the legside towards leg stump. Very defensive and difficult to score off, not very exciting to watch.
you've lost me there. a bowler can do that under the current rules. what do you mean that would be different? You can do it under the current rules, but if the ball pitches outside leg stump the batsman cannot be given out lbw. If the ball pitches outside off stump the batsman can only be given out if he is not playing a shot. So under the current rule a batsman can just kick a ball away if it pitches outside leg making legside bowling much less attractive to the bowler. Not true. The ball can pitch outside the off stump,but it must strike the pad in line with the stumps if he's playing a shot. |
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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2008, 07:55:37 PM » |
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I've not expressed myself terribly well.
I'm just trying to examine the real world effects of creating two 'off stumps'.
Would it encourage exciting, innovative cricket?
Or would it lead to the bowlers employing negative tactics?
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2008, 08:06:09 PM » |
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I certainly don't think the off stump should become the leg stump.So the batsman should still be able to be given out if the ball pitches outside his new 'leg' stump.
Personally if i was a bowler i would love the batsmen to play this shot,i'm sure more will be out to it than hit it for six.
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2008, 08:08:37 PM » |
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I meant remove the distinct between leg and off side for lbw and wide if, and only if, the batsman decides to change stance mid ball.
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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2008, 08:49:58 PM » |
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Mal Loye clearly showed tonoght its not as easy as Pietersen makes it look...
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« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2008, 08:51:41 PM » |
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Who else can seriously manage this? Not many I'd wager.
It's not as though the batsman can try it too often either.
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« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2008, 09:05:06 PM » |
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Who else can seriously manage this? Not many I'd wager.
It's not as though the batsman can try it too often either.
Mal Loye did it tonight in the 20/20 game on tv. Hit it for 6 as well!! |
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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2008, 09:07:34 PM » |
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Who else can seriously manage this? Not many I'd wager.
It's not as though the batsman can try it too often either.
Mal Loye did it tonight in the 20/20 game on tv. Hit it for 6 as well!! But some attempts he his bat got wrapped around his legs somewhere... |
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2008, 11:06:50 PM » |
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But they're only just trying it. It's not the first time Pietersen has done it.
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2008, 11:21:38 PM » |
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Paul Nixon also did it in last years world cup.
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