Ugh, very well played sir. Throws up.

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: doubleup

Using ICM equity I think it is a fold - your equity is $1334 if you fold and vs any 2 overs its 1306.  (ok a bit closer than I thought.....)

With the imo WORST case scenario this close why are we folding again?

[doubleup]

Posted by: doubleup

Using ICM equity I think it is a fold - your equity is $1334 if you fold and vs any 2 overs its 1306.  (ok a bit closer than I thought.....)

With the imo WORST case scenario this close why are we folding again?

emmm no there are 5 worse scenarios, but the point is it is a fold vs overcards despite the fact that we have 8bbs in dead money which is certainly not something that the little men inside your head would believe.

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: doubleup

emmm no there are 5 worse scenarios, but the point is it is a fold vs overcards despite the fact that we have 8bbs in dead money which is certainly not something that the little men inside your head would believe.

You are getting really upset that I want to call this bet doubleup, please don't. With equity at $1334 vs $1306 lets just say i'm gonna go crazy and gamble the $28 that he doesn't have one of those five hands in the hope of winning $2,000. A smaller pair or a low suited Ace is a better match for Villains insta-spaz-push than A-A i would think.

Calling prevents the indignity of being rolled over like a biaaatch as an extra bonus.

[action man]

Posted by: doubleup

emmm no there are 5 worse scenarios, but the point is it is a fold vs overcards despite the fact that we have 8bbs in dead money which is certainly not something that the little men inside your head would believe.

You are getting really upset that I want to call this bet doubleup, please don't. With equity at $1334 vs $1306 lets just say i'm gonna go crazy and gamble the $28 that he doesn't have one of those five hands in the hope of winning $2,000. A smaller pair or a low suited Ace is a better match for Villains insta-spaz-push than A-A i would think.

Calling prevents the indignity of being rolled over like a biaaatch as an extra bonus.

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[doubleup]

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errr no I think pushing is better than raise/calling - you need 64% equity for raise/calling to be superior to pushing - so he'd have to be eg pushing with any pair, any ace, any broadway, any suited.

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: doubleup

so he'd have to be eg pushing with any pair, any ace, any broadway, any suited.

Yes, I think that's a good indication of Villain's range. Do you want to join the call ftw club now? I promise that when we call everything is going to be alright.

[AlexMartin]

Obv with equal stacks its a snap call, but i didnt have time to really get into the problem in the hand timeframe. I was hero and i did fold, mainly coz it was such a fast all-in, with no thought on villains behalf which stunk of AK/AQ 1010/JJ type hand and i (incorrectly) had not adjusted to his approach. I think in hindsight it was a call, but i just felt like it was a meh spot, that obv decent players use a lot but I forget when its being used v me. Deffo shoulda raised a little less pre too (poss 2.5 does sam job). cheers for input, but i think the jamming ranges you guys put up are in need of a tweak (22+/QJs+ is slightly too loose imo).

[MANTIS01]

Where did you finish Alex? Also what would you do with 2-2 if you were villain?

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Where did you finish Alex? Also what would you do with 2-2 if you were villain?

fold coz he's a pussy


oh, and 3rd obv

[doubleup]

Posted by: doubleup

so he'd have to be eg pushing with any pair, any ace, any broadway, any suited.

Yes, I think that's a good indication of Villain's range. Do you want to join the call ftw club now? I promise that when we call everything is going to be alright.

lol - when I'm faced with the choice of doing thing a) which carries almost no risk and thing b) which relies exactly on my opponent choosing to do what you believe everyone is always doing, I'll stick with a).  

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: doubleup

lol - when I'm faced with the choice of doing thing a) which carries almost no risk and thing b) which relies exactly on my opponent choosing to do what you believe everyone is always doing, I'll stick with a).

 

I wouldn't say folding 9-9 carries no risk. You risk looking back in hindsight thinking you should have called for one.

[AlexMartin]

Where did you finish Alex? Also what would you do with 2-2 if you were villain?

2nd, with 22 in his shoes i jam along with any 2 playable tbh. He's not me though and i think he prolly open folds 22-55 and QJ/KJ.

[doubleup]

Where did you finish Alex? Also what would you do with 2-2 if you were villain?

2nd, with 22 in his shoes i jam along with any 2 playable tbh. He's not me though and i think he prolly open folds 22-55 and QJ/KJ.

In that case your fold is correct

[NoflopsHomer]

Raise pre, call shove. Villain's range should include all pairs imo. There are only five better hands than ours in the deck and we are three handed!

[TheChipPrince]

I would call, 39k more to win 94k to virtually win the tourney...   When 60-70% of the time we'll be flipping, 25% of the time he'll have an underpair, 5% he'll have an over...