TURBO 18 man SNG

[GlasgowBandit]

Playing a $20 18 man SNG last night.  started with 3 tables of 6, first table I beat up quite badly, and had decent chips when we got down to 12 I was CL but took my fit off the gas and was being more patient actually waiting on hands rather than using stack size and position.

6 handed I was still CL but blinds becoming big, I don't think i had any more than 12 x BB at any time during the final, one player was sat out when we got down to 4 he was sat to my right i never found a hand UTG that i thought worthy of shoving with so blinds are starting to bite so I'm pretty level in chips on the bubble maybe just still CL. 

And I pick up AJ utg is this an open shove ? Or do I wait on the sit out player busting?  Just seemed that no matter what he was AI with while sitting out he hit.

[Suited_Jock]

wat?

[gatso]

If you're at a 6 handed table and you can't find a hand to open shove with when the BB is sat out then you probably need to remove the post-it note that's covering your cards up.

[jizzemm]

Or even put a post it note there, and just click all in...

[gatso]

agreed. either start looking at your cards or stop looking at them. either way put your chips in.

and are you seriously asking whether you should pass AJ because in the past he's been hitting? an interesting view on the law of causality.

and if he's sitting out and AI he can only be in for less than 1 BB. wtf are you worried about him hitting for? maybe worry about the 4 others behind you but not the BB

[Longy]

Your effectively on the button (given one is sitting out) with aj and 12bbs, therefore if my reading comprehension is correct this is an insta shove.

[EvilPie]

Limp.

Pray that someone raises / shoves then jam the lot in yourself. If they don't then I would guess they've all folded cus no one limps utg this late in an stt unless they've got a monster.

If someone raises and they've got something that beats your AJ then chances are they'll beat the AI guy as well. If SB calls then just jam the flop no matter what. If he's got enough to call you then he's beating the AI guy.

Hence you make the money no matter what happens and you're happy.

DO NOT FOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wardonkey]

I have a better idea than limping; buy shares in Enron....

[bolt pp]

I have a better idea than limping; buy shares in Enron....

lol, indeed

[Longy]

I have a better idea than limping; buy shares in Enron....

Yep, limping with aj with a chip lead on the bubble is all kinds of wrong.

[GlasgowBandit]

the jink I was getting when UTG was generally 72, 82, 92, 83, T4, T5 and all other shit kinds of randomness.  I did shove with the AJ ran right into AK, next hand I don't have enough chips to post the BB 2 players flat call and the sitting out short stack who is no longer longer all in passes has 120 back and the two other players check down and I bust in 4th.

I was just wondering if ever an arguement can be made for passing AJ in this position and locking up a cash?

[TheChipPrince]

the jink I was getting when UTG was generally 72, 82, 92, 83, T4, T5 and all other shit kinds of randomness.  I did shove with the AJ ran right into AK, next hand I don't have enough chips to post the BB 2 players flat call and the sitting out short stack who is no longer longer all in passes has 120 back and the two other players check down and I bust in 4th.

I was just wondering if ever an arguement can be made for passing AJ in this position and locking up a cash?

Very very rarely, if ever, infact only ever in a satellite...

[Boba Fett]

Fold and wait for aces, maybe kings

[vegaslover]

lol at the limp
Bandit, those rags are fine for shoving, you want live cards if you get called

[EvilPie]

lol at the limp
Bandit, those rags are fine for shoving, you want live cards if you get called

Explain the problem with limping here please. Everybody says lol, nobody gives any form of reason.

The guy has made it clear that he wants to cash. Limping with the idea of calling or coming over the top to any raise is the surest way of achieving his goal.

If he shoves everyone folds who's behind him and he's probably 60 40 to win a crappy little pot consisting of a small blind + half a big blind.

That's costing him 12 big blinds to win f**k all when he's only getting called if he's beat or 50 50.

Shoving in these situations is intended to make everyone fold to pick up the blinds. You've got a good hand 3 handed and you want to scare everyone off. Give someone a chance to bluff then take their chips.

I can't see any merit in shoving. Raise it yes but shoving won't achieve anything that a good raise won't.