whats my play here on the turn??

[Hairydude]

** Hand # 1011608435 starting - 2008-07-05 22:04:47
** $3,000 GTD $25 NLHE Freezeout[1667511]:Table 13 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (20.00|40.00 NL - MTT) Real Money

flushed65 sitting in seat 1 with 1980.00
RJK62 sitting in seat 2 with 1980.00
sisitkid sitting in seat 3 with 1980.00[Dealer]
rustybear sitting in seat 4 with 1970.00
LuftUlv1 sitting in seat 5 with 1980.00
oneblackhawk sitting in seat 6 with 2000.00
Hero sitting in seat 7 with 2000.00
ColGadafee sitting in seat 8 with 2120.00
MBM sitting in seat 9 with 1980.00
willcarroll sitting in seat 10 with 1980.00
rustybear posted the small blind - 10.00
LuftUlv1 posted the big blind - 20.00

** Dealing cards to Hero: ,
oneblackhawk called - 20.00
Hero raised to 120.00
ColGadafee folded
MBM folded
willcarroll folded
flushed65 folded
RJK62 called - 120.00
sisitkid called - 120.00
rustybear folded
LuftUlv1 folded
oneblackhawk folded

** Dealing the flop: , ,
Hero bet - 410.00
RJK62 folded
sisitkid called - 410.00

** Dealing the turn:

Was I too aggressive on the flop?? whats my play now that I've bricked- start of the tourney so not seen player play a hand yet??

[Newmanseye]

tough one,

I am highly over agressive and I would bet about 700 here, pray that either the flush or one of our overcards hit.

If raised I wwould probably call given the outs and that i am a donk.

[Hairydude]

I pansy checked the turn as I felt he may have had strength- he took quite a while to call the flop- so I think he was wondering what his play was- then when I checked he shoved- is it a call after he shoves?? I think i've been super weak here and hate the way I've played the hand but just wondering whether a call is correct- even with my 2 overs and flush draw I dont think i'm getting the odds to call am I??

[Newmanseye]

well its down to you if you call tbh, you can get away here cheap, with 3/4 of your stack and rebuild, the shove is probably to prevent you from hitting the flush tbh, he probably has A 9 given its the first hand and these tourneys are filled with donks, do thats 3 outs you can discount.

best chance is 12 outs in the deck for you and thats only if no one has passed any clubs and queens.

Better spots to get all your money in, and you have a playable stack from the first level, But if you want a gamble have a bash.

[Hairydude]

FFS yeah well I folded like a wuss and waited to get a better spot- managed to get back up to my starting stack of 2k when this happened

** Hand # 1011633314 starting - 2008-07-05 22:40:56
** $3,000 GTD $25 NLHE Freezeout[1667511]:Table 3 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (50.00|100.00 NL - MTT) Real Money

Hero sitting in seat 1 with 2025.00
steinyga sitting in seat 2 with 1335.00
jackson2102 sitting in seat 3 with 1880.00
hillbillyC sitting in seat 4 with 1910.00
thechipmaker sitting in seat 5 with 1850.00[Sitting out]
KFallon sitting in seat 6 with 7645.00
-Falcon- sitting in seat 7 with 2550.00
Kinley sitting in seat 8 with 2860.00
jimbob8686 sitting in seat 9 with 1677.50
Aich-em sitting in seat 10 with 1710.00[Dealer]
Hero posted the small blind - 25.00
steinyga posted the big blind - 50.00

** Dealing cards to Hero: ,
jackson2102 folded
hillbillyC folded
thechipmaker folded
KFallon folded
-Falcon- folded
Kinley folded
jimbob8686 raised to 200.00
Aich-em folded
Hero went all-in - 2025.00
steinyga folded
jimbob8686 went all-in - 1477.50
jimbob8686 shows: Ah,

** Dealing the flop: , ,

** Dealing the turn: 10h

** Dealing the river:
jimbob8686 wins 3405.00 from the main pot

FckMyLife and most definately FCK laddies

I know my shove might seem so extreme this early in a tourney but you always get donks calling off their stack with Ax at this stage

[Newmanseye]

you got the call you wanted, you had him dead to a runner runner, look at the positive, you played it well and you made the right decision, dont get annoyed with the donk, you want that call.

[Hairydude]

I know I know- just running pretty bad so need to stop steaming- managed to get back up to 720-need a few double ups to get back in it

[FuglyBaz]

I would've bet out again on the turn. Checking is far too weak. You've bluffed this far you have to carry it on. If you check he insta shoves and you can't call.

Sorry Im saying what others have said already, but thats what I think anyway

[dan]

I wouldve check raised the flop. On the turn I would probably fire again

[Royal Flush]

best chance is 12 outs in the deck for you and thats only if no one has passed any clubs and queens.

I LOL'd

[Newmanseye]

best chance is 12 outs in the deck for you and thats only if no one has passed any clubs and queens.

I LOL'd

Ok James, educate me, what glorious muff have i made?

[Royal Flush]

best chance is 12 outs in the deck for you and thats only if no one has passed any clubs and queens.

I LOL'd

Ok James, educate me, what glorious muff have i made?

How long have you been playing for? I know we have been through this gaff before!

[Newmanseye]

is it because i discounted the aces?

Honestly i am wooshing

the villian on a hand, that was my guess for the live cards.

BTW have i mentioned i am a donk

[Royal Flush]

is it because i discounted the aces?

Honestly i am wooshing

the villian on a hand, that was my guess for the live cards.

BTW have i mentioned i am a donk

Well yeah just assuming he has A9 is a bit silly, more the "thats only if no one has passed any clubs and queens"

Obviously some of your outs have already been passed, thats why we call the rest of the deck 47 unknown cards, rather than just the cards the dealer has left in his hand....

[AlexMartin]

deffo double barrel this op, get bet sizing right, has to take it down now. bunch of his range cant call as ur effectively repping big pp.