KK Conundrum

[TightEnd]

the cold caller of the 600, and then the 2400 (which is itself called) had JJ!!!

I think he plays this worst of the lot!

[gatso]

Oops, my bad.  There's still a caller of the 12xBB and then a reraise, that's a big commitment.

yeah but we can't put one of them on AA. it's in their range but putting someone on a single hand is pretty poor and v scared play, even more so with no info.

[gatso]

the cold caller of the 600, and then the 2400 (which is itself called) had JJ!!!

I think he plays this worst of the lot!

and the sickest part of the hand is when he sees the 10 hit the board

[Dewi_cool]

I think he played it fine +ev move to get a chipset

[mondatoo]

the cold caller of the 600, and then the 2400 (which is itself called) had JJ!!!

I think he plays this worst of the lot!

He should've called the all ins imo  

Seriously though yeah he played it bad surely every1 is folding this pre flop

[celtic]

JJ has to call the 2 all-ins IMO, he has a gutshot to treble up in the first level. Folding there is bad poker.

[Graham C]

Hey, that's good, I'm not a bad player cos I'd have gone bust here too

I'm not saying it's great to be folding here, but I wonder why during the first level of any tournament no matter how great the structure, someone is always going to be getting it all in.  Later in the tournament I don't have issue with, but at this stage, you are either massively ahead or miles behind.  Winning this hand isn't going to win you the tournament, losing it will cost you it.

[Longy]

I probably go broke preflop against an unknown. It isn't quite as clear cut as aa vs kk situation where you should go broke every time, as we are 200bbs deep and ep raise sizing are pretty good imo, therefore probably knows what they are doing. Too many people end up doing this with ak and qq for it not to +ev.

I felt the flop everytime as played, ak and qq are still very much still in eps range imo. The call preflop is fine imo as a trap, but not as a "god damn i don't what to do here, maybe i can pass the flop" move.

[cambo]

you can never ever ever fold this flop imo

[ZZZZZZZROPE]

you can never ever ever fold this flop imo

+1

[boldie]

you can never ever ever fold this flop imo

+1

+2

and never folding pre either.

[kinboshi]

you can never ever ever fold this flop imo

+1

+2

and never folding pre either.

I can't fold this on the flop, but I could if it was all-in pre.

[MANTIS01]

I don't know how you can call the re-raise pre-flop and then fold on the flop. If you folded the flop it would make the pre-flop call nonsensical. You could push pre-flop if you wanted but you called to see the flop. Now that you have made that choice what sort of flop were you hoping to see? The only realistic way out of the hand is a plain A high flop. If the flop comes low and raggy how could you fold then? If you fold then why did you call the re-raise pre-flop? You are surely committed. But with this flop you've actually improved. If there was any doubt the push from ep widens his range to include lots of hands you beat. Like Longy says A-K and QQ are just as possible as A-A. No way I fold here. 

[TheChipPrince]

If there's a conundrum in the OP I cant see it!!

[TightEnd]

Play pre-flop was the question really

forget post flop, its going in universally of course