Knock-off Nigel

[Bongo]

If you nick a DVD you're taking something tangible, if you download a film it's intangible. If you were never going to buy the film in the first place no one has lost out. If you're buying a pirated DVD I'd guess it's a bit different, no idea why anyone would do that though!

New letter writing campaign thing is a load of rubbish. The people at the pirate bay are already working on a new system that would stop their detection methods and anyone who is seriously downloading a lot of stuff is going to spend a few quid (which could have bought a CD) on a seed box in a download friendly country - get that to do the file sharing, transfer the goodies over an encrypted link to your PC and job's a good un.

[snoopy1239]

Lots of people download music, TV shows, films, software without paying for it.  It's therefore illegal, but that doesn't bother a lot of people.

   (image stolen from the Knock-off Nigel website)

I guess many people think it's a 'victimless' crime, or at least the victim is someone who they can't see (and can't see them obviously) - whereas nicking a CD or DVD from a shop would be abhorrent to them. 

The 'Knock-off Nigel' adverts are obviously designed to raise people's moral awareness of these activities, and somehow to make the acts shameful and something to be embarrassed about.  Do they actually do that?  They do get people talking about it (I'm doing that now).  The other question I have is who is paying for the campaign?  I'm always suspicious when the sponsor isn't overtly highlighted.

I was thinking about this the other day. If anything, I reckon it raises awareness that you can do it, rather than any moral issue. I think comedy instead of shocking is a bad path to take.

[neeko]

I i bought a CD a number of years ago but it has died from over use.

Am I legally allowed to downloaded it for free because i have paid for the record company & artists rights once and just because CD's only last 10- 15 years is there problem not mine?

[KingPoker]

I gotta be honest id love to be sung to in work by the whole of the office!

[Grier78]

We have been told for years that pirate DVD's contribute to terrorism and organised crime. So if you download then you are fighting the war against terrorism. Win win sitauation for everyone.

[Bongo]

I i bought a CD a number of years ago but it has died from over use.

Am I legally allowed to downloaded it for free because i have paid for the record company & artists rights once and just because CD's only last 10- 15 years is there problem not mine?

Sony think it's stealing to buy a CD and then rip it to MP3s for your own personal use.

The rest of the industry probably think that downloading when you own the CD is wrong too, but then again they're used to selling you the same album again and again.

[matt674]

can't really comment on the subject, when your musical tastes (the normal ones anyway) are stuck in the early 90's most of the tunes are given away free anyway!!

[thetank]

You're better shoplifting clothes and that nowadays.

No point nicking a decent DVD as when you flog it in Wetherspoons people just think it's a pirate.

[Rod Paradise]

You're better shoplifting clothes and that nowadays.

No point nicking a decent DVD as when you flog it in Wetherspoons people just think it's a pirate.

According to the well padded junkie (seriously - the guy has a self made fat-suit) who sells in my local - the best things are meat from M&S, deodourants, slimfast shakes??? and cheese.

Batteries and razors are too well watched now.

[thetank]

Cadbury's cream eggs ftw

You will literlly never get caught, they are just so piss simple a shape.

[gatso]

Cadbury's cream eggs ftw

You will literlly never get caught, they are just so piss simple a shape.

all listen to the champion shoplifter.

I seem to remember someone getting caught nicking a notepad in Woolies

[Josedinho]

I i bought a CD a number of years ago but it has died from over use.

Am I legally allowed to downloaded it for free because i have paid for the record company & artists rights once and just because CD's only last 10- 15 years is there problem not mine?

I think if you have the original it is fine. Well i was told that by a teacher a few years ago that had his entire CD collection on copied CD's so that his collection was in perfect condition up in his loft and never got used.

Sometimes illegal downloads can be good for the music companies.
I saw a CD online that had had decent reviews. I downloaded a couple of tracks and liked them so bought the album.
Without the illegally downloaded songs i wouldn't have bothered.

I think there is more pressure on companies to produce decent albums. Too many these days have 1 or 2 decent singles and the album is filled out with rubbish so people just download the couple of good songs.

[AndrewT]

Sometimes illegal downloads can be good for the music companies.
I saw a CD online that had had decent reviews. I downloaded a couple of tracks and liked them so bought the album.
Without the illegally downloaded songs i wouldn't have bothered.

I've done this too - got into bands because I downloaded something to give them a try. I've then gone on and bought their albums - all sales that would never have happened without downloading stuff first.

[cia260895]

Cadbury's cream eggs ftw

You will literlly never get caught, they are just so piss simple a shape.

all listen to the champion shoplifter.

I seem to remember someone getting caught nicking a notepad in Woolies

got held for ages when i was a kid for nicking a few sweets from the pic n mix.

Mum wasnt happy with wollies especially as they called her into the store to collect me...

[thetank]

If I'm a producer of movies, and make a film that 30,000,000 people illegally download, that means that 30,000,000 are watching my shit.

If 30,000,000 people are watching my shit and I can't figure out a way to make any money out of that, then I'm a very silly puppy indeed.

You know that logo in the top left hand side of the screen that some TV channels put on their shows. Make it a Mcdonalds golden arches or a Nike tick.
It's not so intrusive that it's going to spoil anyone's experience, and suddenly 30,000,000 people seeing it isn't such a bad thing after all.