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« on: August 05, 2008, 03:00:06 AM »
25 left in about 14th place at moment




PokerStars Game #19366988188: Tournament #99190690, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2008/08/04 - 21:49:46 (ET)
Table '99190690 90' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Poker M (71551 in chips)
Seat 2: Nocturnick (55045 in chips)
Seat 3: loonatic111 (47650 in chips)
Seat 5: El ibero (205020 in chips)
Seat 6: ComeUpKid (188497 in chips)
Seat 7: myheim (202665 in chips)
Seat 8: josepebhoy (171644 in chips)
Seat 9: HULAGULA (203946 in chips)
Poker M: posts the ante 500
Nocturnick: posts the ante 500
loonatic111: posts the ante 500
El ibero: posts the ante 500
ComeUpKid: posts the ante 500
myheim: posts the ante 500
josepebhoy: posts the ante 500
HULAGULA: posts the ante 500
El ibero: posts small blind 2500
ComeUpKid: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to josepebhoy [ As]
myheim: folds
josepebhoy: raises 10000 to 15000
HULAGULA: folds
Poker M: folds
Nocturnick: folds
loonatic111: folds
El ibero: folds
ComeUpKid: raises 30000 to 45000
josepebhoy: calls 30000
*** FLOP *** [td ]
ComeUpKid: bets 142997 and is all-in
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 03:13:02 AM »
Quote from: seven2unsuited on August 05, 2008, 03:00:06 AM
25 left in about 14th place at moment




PokerStars Game #19366988188: Tournament #99190690, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2500/5000) - 2008/08/04 - 21:49:46 (ET)
Table '99190690 90' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Poker M (71551 in chips)
Seat 2: Nocturnick (55045 in chips)
Seat 3: loonatic111 (47650 in chips)
Seat 5: El ibero (205020 in chips)
Seat 6: ComeUpKid (188497 in chips)
Seat 7: myheim (202665 in chips)
Seat 8: josepebhoy (171644 in chips)
Seat 9: HULAGULA (203946 in chips)
Poker M: posts the ante 500
Nocturnick: posts the ante 500
loonatic111: posts the ante 500
El ibero: posts the ante 500
ComeUpKid: posts the ante 500
myheim: posts the ante 500
josepebhoy: posts the ante 500
HULAGULA: posts the ante 500
El ibero: posts small blind 2500
ComeUpKid: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to josepebhoy [ As]
myheim: folds
josepebhoy: raises 10000 to 15000
HULAGULA: folds
Poker M: folds
Nocturnick: folds
loonatic111: folds
El ibero: folds
ComeUpKid: raises 30000 to 45000
josepebhoy: calls 30000
*** FLOP *** [td ]
ComeUpKid: bets 142997 and is all-in

Fold or shove pre
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 04:48:08 AM »
Yeah fold shove or pre, you are too shallow post flop to gain any advantage by calling with a hand like aj. You have managed to illustrate perfectly in this hand.

As played i think we have to call with a straight draw and overs (though one or both them are often going to be useless), we are likely to have around 40% equity agains villains range. Which is enough to call.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 04:49:01 AM »
100k in pot, he shoves for 140k. stick in reasonable ranges into pokerstove and hurrah, snap call.

but preflop is rough and probably a fold.
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 04:49:50 AM »
Quote from: Longy on August 05, 2008, 04:48:08 AM
Yeah fold shove or pre, you are too shallow post flop to gain any advantage by calling with a hand like aj. You have managed to illustrate perfectly in this hand.

As played i think we have to call with a straight draw and overs (though one or both them are often going to be useless), we are likely to have around 40% equity agains villains range. Which is enough to call.

dammnit im beginning to think we were given the same brain.

(UL m8)
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 04:51:50 AM »
Quote from: AlexMartin on August 05, 2008, 04:49:50 AM
Quote from: Longy on August 05, 2008, 04:48:08 AM
Yeah fold shove or pre, you are too shallow post flop to gain any advantage by calling with a hand like aj. You have managed to illustrate perfectly in this hand.

As played i think we have to call with a straight draw and overs (though one or both them are often going to be useless), we are likely to have around 40% equity agains villains range. Which is enough to call.

dammnit im beginning to think we were given the same brain.

(UL m8)

Sigh you have my sympathies
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 10:24:35 AM »
Ye Pre flop was messy and i need to look at the way i play around this stage of tournies  in the future.  But i did call seemed a nice opportunity to get a stack to challenge FTW

josepebhoy: calls 126144 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (16853) returned to ComeUpKid
*** TURN *** [td ] []
*** RIVER *** [td ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ComeUpKid: shows [ ] (a pair of Kings)
josepebhoy: shows [ As] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
ComeUpKid said, "fk that"
josepebhoy collected 348788 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 348788 | Rake 0
Board [td ]
Seat 1: Poker M folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Nocturnick folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: loonatic111 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: El ibero (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: ComeUpKid (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 7: myheim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: josepebhoy showed [ As] and won (348788) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 9: HULAGULA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2008, 10:31:26 AM »
nother hand this guy has raised from same spot in last 3 orbits, i have managed to nick blinds once or twice in that time.  What range do you need to push here?

PokerStars Game #19370047003: Tournament #99190690, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (20000/40000) - 2008/08/05 - 00:07:43 (ET)
Table '99190690 11' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BrokenTPot (1846891 in chips)
Seat 2: josepebhoy (215976 in chips)
Seat 4: loonatic111 (565000 in chips)
Seat 5: llindeberg_ (429032 in chips)
Seat 6: sakweight (561101 in chips)
BrokenTPot: posts the ante 4000
josepebhoy: posts the ante 4000
loonatic111: posts the ante 4000
llindeberg_: posts the ante 4000
sakweight: posts the ante 4000
josepebhoy: posts small blind 20000
loonatic111: posts big blind 40000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to josepebhoy [X X]
llindeberg_: folds
sakweight: raises 55000 to 95000
BrokenTPot: folds
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2008, 11:26:35 AM »
Quote from: seven2unsuited on August 05, 2008, 10:31:26 AM
nother hand this guy has raised from same spot in last 3 orbits, i have managed to nick blinds once or twice in that time.  What range do you need to push here?

PokerStars Game #19370047003: Tournament #99190690, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (20000/40000) - 2008/08/05 - 00:07:43 (ET)
Table '99190690 11' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BrokenTPot (1846891 in chips)
Seat 2: josepebhoy (215976 in chips)
Seat 4: loonatic111 (565000 in chips)
Seat 5: llindeberg_ (429032 in chips)
Seat 6: sakweight (561101 in chips)
BrokenTPot: posts the ante 4000
josepebhoy: posts the ante 4000
loonatic111: posts the ante 4000
llindeberg_: posts the ante 4000
sakweight: posts the ante 4000
josepebhoy: posts small blind 20000
loonatic111: posts big blind 40000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to josepebhoy [X X]
llindeberg_: folds
sakweight: raises 55000 to 95000
BrokenTPot: folds

With the odds you'd be giving him to call he's calling every push you make so pointless doing it with a hand... A 10+/A 9sooted+/77+
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2008, 08:56:26 PM »
Nice result mate! 
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2008, 11:19:42 PM »
Fuck it i'm shoving any 2.  I'm on tilt for not having any reads despite playing for 5 hours and accumulating a decent sized stack.  Just played every hand in a vacuum.  Thats right.  All in son
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2008, 11:40:56 PM »
Quote from: Rupert on August 05, 2008, 11:19:42 PM
Fuck it i'm shoving any 2.  I'm on tilt for not having any reads despite playing for 5 hours and accumulating a decent sized stack.  Just played every hand in a vacuum.  Thats right.  All in son

hahahahah, quality. I am actually gonna memorise that lot and sing it while tilt shoving in a live comp.

OP, you need a hand here and ChipRich's range looks spot on.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2008, 11:56:41 PM »
I'm with the majority its a shove pre or pass. AJ  is not  hand to be getting tricky with.

As played u must call now and hope you still have outs.  As shown it did Smiley
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