Drugs in poker

[phatomch]

lol, my god if they banned all the people on drugs the tour would collapse, half the dealers would be gone, I know atleast 40-50 regular poker scene players that always have a few grams every tourny and thats not mentioning others linked to the gaming industry.

Its goes with the game like it or not, just like the strippers and the whores a lot of players/staff use every tourny

[ShatnerPants]

lol, my god if they banned all the people on drugs the tour would collapse, half the dealers would be gone, I know atleast 40-50 regular poker scene players that always have a few grams every tourny and thats not mentioning others linked to the gaming industry.

Its goes with the game like it or not, just like the strippers and the whores a lot of players/staff use every tourny

OK so it goes on -  ooooh its a wicked world.

But if someone started getting down with a whore in public it would get stamped on.  Same thing with coke.  If you start doing it in public, you deserve to get done.

If you get out of order - on anything, you deserve to get done, too.

Just coz it's common, don't mean you should be able to get out of order, unchallenged

EDIT : I'm assuming that the reason for taking the drugs is to make you feel good , and improve your game.  If you can't control your input so that you take too much, and lose your decorum, then you don't deserve to be playing. If you have a line, and noone notices, good luck too you.  If you can't handle it, save it 'till you get home.

[Girgy85]

Where did this coked up little scrote get £1k from to play this kind of event?

has he bought himself in with drug money???

[ShatnerPants]

Where did this coked up little scrote get £1k from to play this kind of event?

has he bought himself in with drug money???

Prolly not.  Normally the opposite.

He's got loads of money, until he gives it to the dealers.

[Karabiner]

You guys are starting to make it sound as though this guy chopped out a line on the table rolled up a note and tooted it while the game was going on, afaik there was not one iota of evidence that he had done anything illegal.

[PocketLady]

I think drugs will always be widely used in poker, purely because the lifestyle.  Poker players at this kind of level (GUKPT) etc are among the few groups of people who can afford to keep a coke habit without having to resort to illegal means to fund their habits.  I know a few players who use coke when they play at my regular haunts, which I can vaguely understand (having never done it myself) as it makes you more confident etc etc.  The weird thing is at one of the casinos I go to, you are more likely to walk in a find four or five regulars sitting playing stoned from a spliff they just had in the car park, which I personally find strange as weed is likely to make you feel more subdued and cautious etc, not what you really want when you are playing poker.  That said however, I would much rather be sat next to a stoned person at a poker table than a drunk one.  Although weed is illegal and alcohol isn't, you'll very rarely find a stoned person getting aggressive or agitated like you would a drunk person.

[Dingdell]

You guys are starting to make it sound as though this guy chopped out a line on the table rolled up a note and tooted it while the game was going on, afaik there was not one iota of evidence that he had done anything illegal.

And fair play to him - he is still in the game! And we're not!!

[ShatnerPants]

You guys are starting to make it sound as though this guy chopped out a line on the table rolled up a note and tooted it while the game was going on, afaik there was not one iota of evidence that he had done anything illegal.

The bloke was, according to several witnesses, out of order.

Which is what he should be brought to task for.

If he has a drug habit, that in itself is his own business.  If he can't handle it, and brings that to the table, then that is even worse.

In a situation like this eye witness reports are a good place to start.  If he had been questioned by staff and found not to be drugged up to the eyeballs, then he should have been asked to leave for the night ( or longer depending on policy ).  If he were found to be out of his head on coke, he shouldn't be allowed to sit at a table until he can at least act under control.

[ShatnerPants]

You guys are starting to make it sound as though this guy chopped out a line on the table rolled up a note and tooted it while the game was going on, afaik there was not one iota of evidence that he had done anything illegal.

And fair play to him - he is still in the game! And we're not!!

Another good question.

Should performance enhancing drugs be banned ?

[Dingdell]

You guys are starting to make it sound as though this guy chopped out a line on the table rolled up a note and tooted it while the game was going on, afaik there was not one iota of evidence that he had done anything illegal.

And fair play to him - he is still in the game! And we're not!!

Another good question.

Should performance enhancing drugs be banned ?

That was the question I asked at the beginning of the thread! Do keep up!  Have a line - it might help....

[StuartHopkin]

Do you really think the casino's want to kick people on coke out? I dont think some people realise how wide spread coke is these days. Im not saying that makes it okay. But im pretty sure that the casino are happy to have peoples judgment impaired even more. If you point it out theyll probably sort it out, but they wont actively look for it. Theres probably 50 coke fiends in any casino on a weekend night.

This bloke your talking about sounds like a twat, the coke brings this more to the surface. He obviously wasnt nice and polite while he was getting ready to come out, rolled up a £20 and turned into the incredible c**t!

I guarantee that if i sat at the bar had 10 pints, a couple of lines and a joint then sat at your table i wouldnt upset anyone. People would know i was battered but i wouldnt be offensive because drugs dont create that in a person.

As for what to do about it, you cant do anything.

You bar him forever, next week your sat next to another one.
You get him thrown out, he stabs you in the car park.
You slap him and tell him to be quiet, you go to prison.
You send him to rehab, he meets amy winehouse, now he's on crack.

[ShatnerPants]

You guys are starting to make it sound as though this guy chopped out a line on the table rolled up a note and tooted it while the game was going on, afaik there was not one iota of evidence that he had done anything illegal.

And fair play to him - he is still in the game! And we're not!!

Another good question.

Should performance enhancing drugs be banned ?

That was the question I asked at the beginning of the thread! Do keep up!  Have a line - it might help....

I was with you a while ago.  But I got distracted by all this defending bad behaviour stuff.  Oops and all that.

I don't see coke as being a good long term drug to help performance anyway.  It doesn't last for that long.  And if, as suggested it does help with some parts of the game, presumably it keeps you awake, and ready to go, does that mean you play too many pots ?  Dunno, I've only ever seen people take it for recreational use.  I know one bloke that takes it for work, but he's an addict, and tbh it doesn't affect him like it does some - he's pretty immune, so he has to take loads to get any response at all. 

The other articles mention beta blockers.  I know snooker players take them to help with heart beat rate.  Good for bluffing, maybe

Modafinil sounds pretty good.  But I've never heard of that being a recreational drug.

I'm guessing that the coke takers aren't serious about using it for better performance, other than using it as a prop, like most drug users do ( when I used to play darts I 'couldn't' play unless I had 4 pints inside me - bollocks, but I believed it ).

But it wouldn't surprise me if the next generation of players are all on Modafinil.

If I were good enough to play for a living, I think I'd try to get my hands on some.  But then, you have to be prepared to suffer the consequences.  Whatever they turn out to be.

I think a clean game would be preferable, but we've seen here that many people don't want that, even to the extent of condoning poor personal behaviour.  And if you're going to be in a drug taking environment, either don't take any.  Or take the best.

[gatso]

Where did this coked up little scrote get £1k from to play this kind of event?

has he bought himself in with drug money???

I so want to believe that is a level but fear it's serious

I love threads like this, they show how many people just don't live in the real world

Do you really think the casino's want to kick people on coke out? I dont think some people realise how wide spread coke is these days. Im not saying that makes it okay. But im pretty sure that the casino are happy to have peoples judgment impaired even more. If you point it out theyll probably sort it out, but they wont actively look for it. Theres probably 50 coke fiends in any casino on a weekend night.

This bloke your talking about sounds like a twat, the coke brings this more to the surface. He obviously wasnt nice and polite while he was getting ready to come out, rolled up a £20 and turned into the incredible c**t!

I guarantee that if i sat at the bar had 10 pints, a couple of lines and a joint then sat at your table i wouldnt upset anyone. People would know i was battered but i wouldnt be offensive because drugs dont create that in a person.

As for what to do about it, you cant do anything.

You bar him forever, next week your sat next to another one.
You get him thrown out, he stabs you in the car park.
You slap him and tell him to be quiet, you go to prison.
You send him to rehab, he meets amy winehouse, now he's on crack.

now that's a proper post from someone who does understand the world around him

[ShatnerPants]

Where did this coked up little scrote get £1k from to play this kind of event?

has he bought himself in with drug money???

I so want to believe that is a level but fear it's serious

I love threads like this, they show how many people just don't live in the real world

Do you really think the casino's want to kick people on coke out? I dont think some people realise how wide spread coke is these days. Im not saying that makes it okay. But im pretty sure that the casino are happy to have peoples judgment impaired even more. If you point it out theyll probably sort it out, but they wont actively look for it. Theres probably 50 coke fiends in any casino on a weekend night.

This bloke your talking about sounds like a twat, the coke brings this more to the surface. He obviously wasnt nice and polite while he was getting ready to come out, rolled up a £20 and turned into the incredible c**t!

I guarantee that if i sat at the bar had 10 pints, a couple of lines and a joint then sat at your table i wouldnt upset anyone. People would know i was battered but i wouldnt be offensive because drugs dont create that in a person.

As for what to do about it, you cant do anything.

You bar him forever, next week your sat next to another one.
You get him thrown out, he stabs you in the car park.
You slap him and tell him to be quiet, you go to prison.
You send him to rehab, he meets amy winehouse, now he's on crack.

now that's a proper post from someone who does understand the world around him

So you condone his behaviour ?

[PocketLady]

I guarantee that if i sat at the bar had 10 pints, a couple of lines and a joint then sat at your table i wouldnt upset anyone. People would know i was battered but i wouldnt be offensive because drugs dont create that in a person.

I agree 100% with this.  Alcohol can make people offensive, violent, and very unpleasant.  I can honestly say I have never been offended or verbally abused by anyone on coke or weed.  Alcohol is the main problem.  Playing poker with drunk people can obviously be a good thing if they decide to give you a christmas present, but they are also likely to kick off when they lose a pot and become otherwise loud and offensive, occassionally violent.  People on drugs tend to be happy (at least in this environment, I don't mean the people shooting up on a daily basis)