Drugs in poker

[gatso]

I'd love to be at the meeting at the casino if someone suggests they should look into customers' cocaine use. think it'd be a short meeting

so it impairs the punters judgement and will keep them awake all night? and you think we should try to stop them using it?

they'd probably consider putting the stuff in the free coffees if they thought they could get away with it

The people who run and work in casinos are not monsters.

lol Jon, that might not have come across quite as it was meant. I didn't actually mean to suggest they would spike the drinks, more that it would be the perfect thing to give away with the coffees if it were allowed.

[PocketLady]

I'd love to be at the meeting at the casino if someone suggests they should look into customers' cocaine use. think it'd be a short meeting

so it impairs the punters judgement and will keep them awake all night? and you think we should try to stop them using it?

they'd probably consider putting the stuff in the free coffees if they thought they could get away with it

The people who run and work in casinos are not monsters.

lol Jon, that might not have come across quite as it was meant. I didn't actually mean to suggest they would spike the drinks, more that it would be the perfect thing to give away with the coffees if it were allowed.

Lol, exactly.  Why else do they serve free alcohol in casinos in Vegas?

[GlasgowBandit]

So what is Phil Laak on?  Anyone watching the WSOP on ESPN Classics?  He's out his tits with the look of things

[nohome]

drugs are bad, mkay

 

[ShatnerPants]

I reread this thread again this morning, and suddenly I'm saddened.

Obviously noone cares about drug usage in poker.  That is itself is not a problem for me.  Poker is a bad boys game, noone wants to clean it up.  Ok, no problem.

How many times have you heard that poker reflects life.  Well, I, for one, think it's true.  Which is where the saddness comes in.  Defending out of order behaviour, no matter where, is just typical of society today.   The sort of 'It didn't affect me, therefore I don't care' attitude.

Drugs is rife, so it doesn't matter what people do while under the influence, there's nothing we can do.

Pissed people get out of order and noone does anything.

Some people are just tw*theads, we just have to put up with it.

Shame, isn't it.

[MANTIS01]

I reread this thread again this morning, and suddenly I'm saddened.

Obviously noone cares about drug usage in poker.  That is itself is not a problem for me.  Poker is a bad boys game, noone wants to clean it up.  Ok, no problem.

How many times have you heard that poker reflects life.  Well, I, for one, think it's true.  Which is where the saddness comes in.  Defending out of order behaviour, no matter where, is just typical of society today.   The sort of 'It didn't affect me, therefore I don't care' attitude.

Drugs is rife, so it doesn't matter what people do while under the influence, there's nothing we can do.

Pissed people get out of order and noone does anything.

Some people are just tw*theads, we just have to put up with it.

Shame, isn't it.

I don't care about drug use in poker. The whole subject of drugs is one for society to address, and there is a time and a place in everyday life to present your views should you wish. When I play poker I see it as complete escapism from the real world. I don't want to be burdened with morality questions or issues concerning society in general. I want to just play, and play in a carefree way. I see poker as a test. Can I work people out, can I find a weakness in them, can I tolerate their behaviour without getting agitated, can I win their money, all this stuff. I don't want to be policing people about drugs at the table or discussing the crisis in Dafur. I want to just play. I have every right to get what I want from poker. And what I want is to leave society behind, not judge anyone, just understand what makes them tick. Yes, society has problems, and yes it is a shame, and that is why playing poker and leaving these issues of social judgement behind for just a minute is so refreshing.

[ShatnerPants]

I reread this thread again this morning, and suddenly I'm saddened.

Obviously noone cares about drug usage in poker.  That is itself is not a problem for me.  Poker is a bad boys game, noone wants to clean it up.  Ok, no problem.

How many times have you heard that poker reflects life.  Well, I, for one, think it's true.  Which is where the saddness comes in.  Defending out of order behaviour, no matter where, is just typical of society today.   The sort of 'It didn't affect me, therefore I don't care' attitude.

Drugs is rife, so it doesn't matter what people do while under the influence, there's nothing we can do.

Pissed people get out of order and noone does anything.

Some people are just tw*theads, we just have to put up with it.

Shame, isn't it.

I don't care about drug use in poker. The whole subject of drugs is one for society to address, and there is a time and a place in everyday life to present your views should you wish. When I play poker I see it as complete escapism from the real world. I don't want to be burdened with morality questions or issues concerning society in general. I want to just play, and play in a carefree way. I see poker as a test. Can I work people out, can I find a weakness in them, can I tolerate their behaviour without getting agitated, can I win their money, all this stuff. I don't want to be policing people about drugs at the table or discussing the crisis in Dafur. I want to just play. I have every right to get what I want from poker. And what I want is to leave society behind, not judge anyone, just understand what makes them tick. Yes, society has problems, and yes it is a shame, and that is why playing poker and leaving these issues of social judgement behind for just a minute is so refreshing.

Good answer.

I knew I was an old fart.

[wader leg]

Out of interest is this the same casino that a few weeks ago some people were demanding that the TD took action because a punters girlfriend was crying after he had lost £100?

[Azirapheal]

id just like to add that alcohol and nicotine are widely avaliable and legal.

if america/the old british empire etc produced the worlds cocaine/ganj etc. they would be legal.

as it is i would far rather encounter a little mob of stoned people (in pretty much any circumstances) than a little mob of drunks. at least the stoners dont get psychotically agressive.

[WYSINWYG]

id just like to add that alcohol and nicotine are widely avaliable and legal.

if america/the old british empire etc produced the worlds cocaine/ganj etc. they would be legal.

as it is i would far rather encounter a little mob of stoned people (in pretty much any circumstances) than a little mob of drunks. at least the stoners dont get psychotically agressive.

Lots of people use alcohol in the knowledge that it is doing them little or no harm. Lots of people are probably using cannabis/marijuana in the belief that it is doing them little or no harm when in fact it is probably about to unpleasantly surprise them in 10 years or so with some kind of psychotic mental illness.
I agree that a lot of people can go a bit crazy/aggressive when boozed up. I do get pretty bored sitting at a party with stoners who have lost the power of speech however.

I tried some legal performance enhancers for a bit, I need to try them for longer to be sure it's them and not just variance/latent fishiness that's causing this:
http://i35.tinypic.com/mawc4p.jpg
Scientists call these 'noobotropics'.

[PocketLady]

Lots of people use alcohol in the knowledge that it is doing them little or no harm. Lots of people are probably using cannabis/marijuana in the belief that it is doing them little or no harm when in fact it is probably about to unpleasantly surprise them in 10 years or so with some kind of psychotic mental illness.

Excessive use of cannabis may cause mental health problems later on in life.  Excessive use of alcohol may cause liver failure later on in life.  It's the same with all things.  Everything in moderation.  The reason drugs are considered dangerous is because some are highly addictive, thus increasing the likelyhood that you will end up using excessively causing the above complications.  Drugs you buy on the street are dangerous because they might be contaminated with other dangerous substances, a problem that would be solved if they were legal and monitored.  Heroine and coke are highly addictive, but drugs like cannabis and ecstasy etc have no addictive properties.  Yes, you can get addicted to them like you can get addicted to anything, poker, shopping etc, but it's not chemically addictive like nicotine.  Like I said in one of my previous posts, an extensive study was done by a large group of people including scienctists and the police, and alcohol and nicotine were actually rated more dangerous than cannabis and ecstasy.  It was that extensive that it has been recommended to the governement that they take this list into account the next time they look at the drugs classification system.

[ShatnerPants]

Lots of people use alcohol in the knowledge that it is doing them little or no harm. Lots of people are probably using cannabis/marijuana in the belief that it is doing them little or no harm when in fact it is probably about to unpleasantly surprise them in 10 years or so with some kind of psychotic mental illness.

Excessive use of cannabis may cause mental health problems later on in life.  Excessive use of alcohol may cause liver failure later on in life.  It's the same with all things.  Everything in moderation.  The reason drugs are considered dangerous is because some are highly addictive, thus increasing the likelyhood that you will end up using excessively causing the above complications.  Drugs you buy on the street are dangerous because they might be contaminated with other dangerous substances, a problem that would be solved if they were legal and monitored.  Heroine and coke are highly addictive, but drugs like cannabis and ecstasy etc have no addictive properties.  Yes, you can get addicted to them like you can get addicted to anything, poker, shopping etc, but it's not chemically addictive like nicotine.  Like I said in one of my previous posts, an extensive study was done by a large group of people including scienctists and the police, and alcohol and nicotine were actually rated more dangerous than cannabis and ecstasy.  It was that extensive that it has been recommended to the governement that they take this list into account the next time they look at the drugs classification system.

I'm no expert.

But I was having a convo with a couple of guys who reckon they know a bit about it.

They were suggesting that Heroine is physically addictive, but coke is only mentally addictive ( does that make sense ).

The problem as far as I see it with cannabis is the way there are loads of different forms / strengths / types.  Skunk is pretty much pure THC, and is pretty likely to induce the paranoia etc.  Whereas hash is lower in THC but higher in cannabides ( spelling ?? ) giving a much 'happier' but weaker high.

Similarly, ecstasy is only dangerous when it's watered down with rubbish to make the pills.

I think everyone should have freedom of choice about taking whatever they want in the privacy of their own homes, as long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else.   But taking too much of any drug and causing a disturbance is out of order, and we shouldn't have to put up with it.

[Karabiner]

Random saliva testing ftw.

[Jon MW]

Lots of people use alcohol in the knowledge that it is doing them little or no harm. Lots of people are probably using cannabis/marijuana in the belief that it is doing them little or no harm when in fact it is probably about to unpleasantly surprise them in 10 years or so with some kind of psychotic mental illness.

Excessive use of cannabis may cause mental health problems later on in life.  Excessive use of alcohol may cause liver failure later on in life.  It's the same with all things.  Everything in moderation.  The reason drugs are considered dangerous is because some are highly addictive, thus increasing the likelyhood that you will end up using excessively causing the above complications.  Drugs you buy on the street are dangerous because they might be contaminated with other dangerous substances, a problem that would be solved if they were legal and monitored.  Heroine and coke are highly addictive, but drugs like cannabis and ecstasy etc have no addictive properties.  Yes, you can get addicted to them like you can get addicted to anything, poker, shopping etc, but it's not chemically addictive like nicotine.  Like I said in one of my previous posts, an extensive study was done by a large group of people including scienctists and the police, and alcohol and nicotine were actually rated more dangerous than cannabis and ecstasy.  It was that extensive that it has been recommended to the governement that they take this list into account the next time they look at the drugs classification system.

If you purely went by the medical evidence you'd have a good argument for banning alcohol and tobacco as well as what is already banned rather than making some of what is already banned legal.

[ShatnerPants]

Lots of people use alcohol in the knowledge that it is doing them little or no harm. Lots of people are probably using cannabis/marijuana in the belief that it is doing them little or no harm when in fact it is probably about to unpleasantly surprise them in 10 years or so with some kind of psychotic mental illness.

Excessive use of cannabis may cause mental health problems later on in life.  Excessive use of alcohol may cause liver failure later on in life.  It's the same with all things.  Everything in moderation.  The reason drugs are considered dangerous is because some are highly addictive, thus increasing the likelyhood that you will end up using excessively causing the above complications.  Drugs you buy on the street are dangerous because they might be contaminated with other dangerous substances, a problem that would be solved if they were legal and monitored.  Heroine and coke are highly addictive, but drugs like cannabis and ecstasy etc have no addictive properties.  Yes, you can get addicted to them like you can get addicted to anything, poker, shopping etc, but it's not chemically addictive like nicotine.  Like I said in one of my previous posts, an extensive study was done by a large group of people including scienctists and the police, and alcohol and nicotine were actually rated more dangerous than cannabis and ecstasy.  It was that extensive that it has been recommended to the governement that they take this list into account the next time they look at the drugs classification system.

If you purely went by the medical evidence you'd have a good argument for banning alcohol and tobacco as well as what is already banned rather than making some of what is already banned legal.

If the government could work out how to get our money out of us as easily as they do through alcohol and 'baccy, I'm pretty sure they'd try.

The advantages of living in a democracy.  Do as you're told and shut up.  Forget about freedom of choice.

Sorry - I'm starting to rant.