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« Reply #225 on: August 11, 2008, 11:20:26 PM »

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« Reply #226 on: August 12, 2008, 12:25:47 AM »

I started to post a reply to this at 5.00 pm with my experiences of smoking and growing weed over the last 20 years and correcting some of the ill-educated untruths being bandied about but after a few smokes and about 20 attempts to write a coherent post I can't be arsed anymore.
What was the question again?

How do you hide the smell once the plants start to bud?
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« Reply #227 on: August 12, 2008, 09:43:17 AM »

Wow, what a great debate!

I detest drugs use, but I can't really articulate my thinking properly, (ingrained thinking, I've always felt that), so I'll not comment further.

Except to say, I don't care if they do drugs, alcohol, ciggies, whatever. But when the guy is gratouisly offensive to fellow players at the Table, I think action needs to be taken. And I know that's not easy, but forget Drugs, & drug tests - his behaviour was abysmal, but he was allowed to continue without being censored by anyone - except us, the Players.

One female player was described as a "****ing racist", & he made repeated sexually offensive remarks.

Little wonder it's tough to attract non-poker Sponsors into the game, with all that lovely free money - for us - when we cannot police ourselves.

I think he meant to say colonic irrigationist but the drugs confused him.....
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« Reply #228 on: August 12, 2008, 09:52:03 AM »

I don't know Tank...but this seems to do the trick

http://www.carbonscrubber.com/
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« Reply #229 on: August 12, 2008, 11:41:46 AM »

Blimey, this subject really gets people going doesn't it?!

I've never smoked anything and don't intend to (well, maybe a fat cigar when the first kid is born!) but have tried cannabis in a cake and didn't really like the effects very much.  It was kinda like being pissed but I was aware of myself acting weirdly!  Clearly I selfishly prefer intoxication through alcolhol with reduced awareness of acting like a tit...  Smiley

I know plenty of people though that have used or continue to use it on a regular basis with a pretty broad spectrum of results.  A friend of the family now has severe mental health problems and his cannabis use has been suggested as a cause of this.  Another friend got pretty addicted alienating himself from others for a couple of years and screwing up his degree.  Several more are still regular users and don't seem to suffer any ill effects whatsoever.

Much like anything I suppose as has been previously mentioned - different effects for different people depending on their physical/mental makeup and volume of use.  I've done some regrettable things in my time due to excessive alcohol consumption and actually consider myself lucky not to have suffered more than a few minor drinking injuries!  Again though I know of people who have destroyed relationships due to alcoholism and others who rarely even get very drunk and just enjoy a few drinks socially.

I always try to think of this in terms of what I would be comfortable for my future children to do based on my own experiences and I honestly think cannabis would be preferable to alcohol, especially if tobacco/smoking could be avoided.

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« Reply #230 on: August 12, 2008, 12:48:21 PM »

I resisted saying anything because I have little to no knowledge about drugs, as I am not a user. I am not against drugs and I am not for drugs, as that is for people to decide. However it does distress me to see some peoples lives being flushed down the toilet. You have to look at Amy Winehouse to see what a state she is in, the poor girl. And I do feel sympathy.

What I don't like reading is all these frightening stories. Although I was a little kid, I still remember when Leah Betts died, when it was on the news. Very sad story and sad for the people involved. But everybodies opinion is based on scare stories from the media and the government.

Wouldn't it be great to see the front page of a newspaper one day and see the headline "Thousands of people enjoy their clubbing due to drug use". Instead they focus on the minority cases.

People should not be deterred from drugs because of other peoples views or stories. They have a choice to break the law or to not take drugs. I would never take drugs purely because I like to be in control. I rarely drink, I've never smoked in my life. The only thing I want going into my body is food, at least that way I only have my lower body I am not in control of. Smiley

As for the guys behaviour at the table...it is disgraceful and uncalled for. I would like to see a nice clean game if I could. It would make my nights much more fun, but I always have my mobile and earphones ready to shut any unwanted noise out.
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« Reply #231 on: August 12, 2008, 12:51:19 PM »

My father passed away several years ago from cancer and was being treated in his last months at Christie's. The specialist there told him to find some to help with the symptoms/side effects of chemotherapy. Luckily I had a good friend cough cough who grew his own and it helped my father be more comfortable in his last days on the recommendation of a doctor. My mother smoked it with him as he was paranoid about breaking the law and convinced the police were gonna bust his door in and she found it helped with her arthritis. When my father died she stopped smoking it and back came the inability to use her hands properly. I gave her a bollocking and she now still smokes it as it helps. When she saw her doctor when the arthritis came back he said off the record to continue smoking it.

PS my mother or father never beat the shit out of anything and this is not something from an eye witness/third hand this is something I have witnessed myself over a number of years. I know plenty people who have smoked for years and years and although I have had a friend put away for gbh it was not because of the cannabis its because he was a violent nutter.

 Drugs can be blamed for many peoples actions but the simple fact is if you put a cock on coke,speed,E or whatever he is still going to be a cock. Its not the drugs fault its the arsehole who is using its fault.
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« Reply #232 on: August 12, 2008, 12:58:05 PM »

also from someone who has used recreational drugs of all kinds (never injected though) I can safely say I would never play poker on any form of drug. It would effect your play IMO and make it too easy to make a mistake. I know people who do but that's their prerogative. I would love to play on a table full of stoners or coke heads, would be very easy to take their chips the same way I would like to sit on a table full of drunks.

The issue with this guy isn't that he was off his head the problem was he was an obnoxious tool.
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« Reply #233 on: August 12, 2008, 01:41:02 PM »

also from someone who has used recreational drugs of all kinds (never injected though) I can safely say I would never play poker on any form of drug. It would effect your play IMO and make it too easy to make a mistake. I know people who do but that's their prerogative. I would love to play on a table full of stoners or coke heads, would be very easy to take their chips the same way I would like to sit on a table full of drunks.

The issue with this guy isn't that he was off his head the problem was he was an obnoxious tool.

I alway worry when I start to agree with you.....but I'm agreeing with you all the same.....according to him he is a well known players godson......he must be so proud.....!
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« Reply #234 on: August 12, 2008, 04:13:25 PM »

There are two issues with drugs.

1) they change your mood / performance - this can be good or bad
2) they can be addictive - and if the habit is not affordable, then it leads to crime.
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« Reply #235 on: August 12, 2008, 04:28:05 PM »

if the habit is not affordable, then it leads to crime.


This is largely due to the illegality of such substances, which like alcohol and tobacco, would be much more affordable if they were legal.

Although it may happen now and again, you don't hear of too many people going on the rob to support a drink or cigarette habit.
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« Reply #236 on: August 12, 2008, 05:47:39 PM »

well the government subsides alcoholics to the tune of £60 a week for beer, but thats a whole different thread
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« Reply #237 on: August 12, 2008, 06:31:16 PM »

well the government subsides alcoholics to the tune of £60 a week for beer, but thats a whole different thread
Certain alcoholics will die if they abruptly cease the consumption of alcohol, is that right?
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« Reply #238 on: August 12, 2008, 08:06:53 PM »

I started to post a reply to this at 5.00 pm with my experiences of smoking and growing weed over the last 20 years and correcting some of the ill-educated untruths being bandied about but after a few smokes and about 20 attempts to write a coherent post I can't be arsed anymore.
What was the question again?

How do you hide the smell once the plants start to bud?

I don't know Tank...but this seems to do the trick

http://www.carbonscrubber.com/

Indeed it will. Because the lighting used generates a lot of heat fans are needed to suck the hot air out of the room, placing charcoal filters in the fans eliminates most of the odour in the air being expellled, air de-ionisers work too apparently.
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« Reply #239 on: August 12, 2008, 09:15:41 PM »

Glade plug-ins just don't cut it do they.
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