So we flop a pair, turn a flush draw, but are ooop. WTD?

[AlexMartin]

***** Hand History for Game 399497663 *****
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 14, 10:50:29 ET 2008
Table Oxygen 86 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: 1saitam ( $228.96 USD )
Seat 2: sing cs ( $201.90 USD )
Seat 3: 'bigpoppa ( $155.93 USD )
Seat 4: leeds123 ( $68.64 USD )
Seat 5: mixalis007 ( $345.52 USD )
Seat 6: JammyJenny ( $403.00 USD )
mixalis007 posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [  ]
JammyJenny raises [$6.00 USD]
1saitam folds
sing cs folds
'bigpoppa calls [$6.00 USD]
mixalis007 calls [$4.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
mixalis007 checks
JammyJenny bets [$12.00 USD]
'bigpoppa calls [$12.00 USD]
mixalis007 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]


My image is fairly aggro 30/24/3. He's a fish, 34/8/1.9 over small sample but pretty clear hes a passive donk. I kinda think double barrel small, probs c/f river coz his aggro is so low and big kings are in his range but obv i really hate c/c on the turn....is c/r the answer or spew?

[Longy]

Just bet again imo, hoping to fold out hands weaker than the bare king. There are draws and other stuff in his range. I would bet something like $25 on the turn.

Plan on the river is to valooo bet if we improve and check/ fold on the river if not.

[boldie]

Just bet again imo, hoping to fold out hands weaker than the bare king. There are draws and other stuff in his range. I would bet something like $25 on the turn.

Plan on the river is to valooo bet if we improve and check/ fold on the river if not.

This.

[TheChipPrince]

***Alex Martin in ''not making his pre-flop raise 3 1/2 BB's'' shocker*** 

[MC]

I think a bet on the turn is definitely best here, the is bad for a heart flush draw, or if he has a 4 or 6. If he has a King he's calling, but you have a fair few outs even if this happens...

[EvilPie]

***Alex Martin in ''not making his pre-flop raise 3 1/2 BB's'' shocker*** 

Don't panic I think it's just a standard pot raise. Would've been 3 1/2 if there was a small blind.

[AlexMartin]

***Alex Martin in ''not making his pre-flop raise 3 1/2 BB's'' shocker*** 

lol evilpie spotted it. although i only really make it smaller when i have short morons in the blinds and i have junk.

[totalise]

bet $20 or so on the turn and if the river gets there for you, bet big, if it whiffs completely, bet $8 on the river to induce (as they dont raise a K) and snap it off like a modern day hero.

[snoopy1239]

I'd check the turn. If he's a passive donk, then he's not going anywhere so you're likely inflating the pot with a weaker hand. Reasses on the river and pot if you hit. So often they're calling you down with some donkey hand like K-T or something.

[AlexMartin]

yeah i check -raised, got pot stuck and he shoved. Luckiliy i run like the wind and sucked out on 444.

[snoopy1239]

yeah i check -raised, got pot stuck and he shoved. Luckiliy i run like the wind and sucked out on 444.

Not sure I see the point of a check-raise there Alex.

[AlexMartin]

yeah i check -raised, got pot stuck and he shoved. Luckiliy i run like the wind and sucked out on 444.

Not sure I see the point of a check-raise there Alex.

I can get him off heart/ combo draws, i can get him off K10, i have good equity if called and if it goes pair-shaped i can claim metagame payoff in future.....

Its not the best play snoops agreed, but i dont want my range of turn c/raises to be sets/huge hands and bluffs, i need some medium strength in there and these fit the bill sometimes.