The Grosvenor Grand Prix is back!

[the sicilian]

I have little doubt that it wont be repeated if the players' reaction is bad.

The perfect answer, thanks. It's up to the players now, as simple as that!

Had no intention of playing it but might spite play it now!

You'd get mullered - it's Pot-Limit.......

 

[AlrightJack]

There is no double rake ffs. Its a flat 5 percent, then the 25k is added.

[tikay]

i may have the wrong end of the stick, from reading the thread I understand that the re buys will be raked

so 5% of all re buys taken raked = £??

and from how the thread reads ( at least to me )

an additional 5% will be taken off the top of the main event prize pool

that if correct is blatant double raking, but i will say no more as i have a feeling i will be corrected.

No, that's 100% wrong Billy.

You pay £50 to buy-in to the Super-Sat, & £50 for each Rebuy. That's it. If that adds up in Total, to, say, £250,000, that's the total Prize Pool.*

But the Prize Pool is raked at 5%.

* = Plus the £25,000 added by Blue Square, which is not Raked.

[tikay]

In the USA they often rake the prize pool and charge a fee, not to mention the almost obligatory dealer bonus. Lovely little comps though...

And that, precisely, exactly, & totally, sums up why I'm concerned about this experiment, & I hope, with due respect, it is not continued.

Personally, I'd have no objection to increased Reg Fees, if extra income was needed to sustain the viability. But the thought of the UK going the American way fills me with horror, & is my exact concern.

[Newmanseye]

i may have the wrong end of the stick, from reading the thread I understand that the re buys will be raked

so 5% of all re buys taken raked = £??

and from how the thread reads ( at least to me )

an additional 5% will be taken off the top of the main event prize pool

that if correct is blatant double raking, but i will say no more as i have a feeling i will be corrected.

No, that's 100% wrong Billy.

You pay £50 to buy-in to the Super-Sat, & £50 for each Rebuy. That's it. If that adds up in Total, to, say, £250,000, that's the total Prize Pool.*

But the Prize Pool is raked at 5%.

* = Plus the £25,000 added by Blue Square, which is not Raked.

Thanks for the clarification, I thought it was £50 +£5 for each rebuy plus 5% taken off the ME prize pool with £25k added back from the house. You can see why this idea had me concerned.

[phatomch]

To clear this up in my mind
 
1. Are the players paying a session charge to play in the super sats and the sats or is it a 5% rake on those.

2. Is there then a 5% rake on the main prize pool before the 25k is added.

I agree witrh grandad on this one and think this is one of the best comps in England, tons of value ill be trying next year for it when I can play in Grosvenors again. Also to point out although Bluesquare are adding the money Grosvenors and Bluesquare are all part of Rank gaming anyway so its all from the same source.

[AlrightJack]

There is no session fee to play in the sats. The prize pool (apart from the £25k added) is entirely made up from the buy in and rebuys from the satellites. The 5% will be deducted from the main prize pool and then the £25k will be added.

[matt674]

To clear this up in my mind
 
1. Are the players paying a session charge to play in the super sats and the sats or is it a 5% rake on those.

2. Is there then a 5% rake on the main prize pool before the 25k is added.

I agree witrh grandad on this one and think this is one of the best comps in England, tons of value ill be trying next year for it when I can play in Grosvenors again. Also to point out although Bluesquare are adding the money Grosvenors and Bluesquare are all Rank anyway so its all from the same source.

bit harsh isn't it? they are adding money after all........

[tikay]

To clear this up in my mind
 
1. Are the players paying a session charge to play in the super sats and the sats or is it a 5% rake on those.

2. Is there then a 5% rake on the main prize pool before the 25k is added.

I agree witrh grandad on this one and think this is one of the best comps in England, tons of value ill be trying next year for it when I can play in Grosvenors again. Also to point out although Bluesquare are adding the money Grosvenors and Bluesquare are all Rank anyway so its all from the same source.

The answer to "2" is yes, correct.

I would imagine Session Charges vary fom Venue to Venue.

one of the best comps in England

For me, THE best comp in England, in the UK, in Europe - far & away the best - (only?) - Big Value Pot-Limit Tourney left on the Calendar.

It's such a shame that Pot-Limit is dying out, but I suppose that's supply & demand is doing it's thing. A wholly different skillset is required.

[tikay]

To clear this up in my mind
 
1. Are the players paying a session charge to play in the super sats and the sats or is it a 5% rake on those.

2. Is there then a 5% rake on the main prize pool before the 25k is added.

I agree witrh grandad on this one and think this is one of the best comps in England, tons of value ill be trying next year for it when I can play in Grosvenors again. Also to point out although Bluesquare are adding the money Grosvenors and Bluesquare are all Rank anyway so its all from the same source.

bit harsh isn't it? they are adding money after all........

Great spot! It whooshed me the first few times I read it.......

[AlrightJack]

To clear this up in my mind
 
1. Are the players paying a session charge to play in the super sats and the sats or is it a 5% rake on those.

2. Is there then a 5% rake on the main prize pool before the 25k is added.

I agree witrh grandad on this one and think this is one of the best comps in England, tons of value ill be trying next year for it when I can play in Grosvenors again. Also to point out although Bluesquare are adding the money Grosvenors and Bluesquare are all Rank anyway so its all from the same source.

bit harsh isn't it? they are adding money after all........

Great spot! It whooshed me the first few times I read it.......

How many times did you read it?

[AlrightJack]

To clear this up in my mind
 
1. Are the players paying a session charge to play in the super sats and the sats or is it a 5% rake on those.

2. Is there then a 5% rake on the main prize pool before the 25k is added.

I agree witrh grandad on this one and think this is one of the best comps in England, tons of value ill be trying next year for it when I can play in Grosvenors again. Also to point out although Bluesquare are adding the money Grosvenors and Bluesquare are all Rank anyway so its all from the same source.

bit harsh isn't it? they are adding money after all........

Great spot! It whooshed me the first few times I read it.......

How many times did you read it?

More accurately, how many times did you misread it and was it easier to misread than two cards?

[tikay]

To clear this up in my mind
 
1. Are the players paying a session charge to play in the super sats and the sats or is it a 5% rake on those.

2. Is there then a 5% rake on the main prize pool before the 25k is added.

I agree witrh grandad on this one and think this is one of the best comps in England, tons of value ill be trying next year for it when I can play in Grosvenors again. Also to point out although Bluesquare are adding the money Grosvenors and Bluesquare are all Rank anyway so its all from the same source.

bit harsh isn't it? they are adding money after all........

Great spot! It whooshed me the first few times I read it.......

How many times did you read it?

23. I planned to suggest that Matt had been unreasonble in his suggestion, until the 23rd time.....

[phatomch]

so the host clubs of the sats won't make any money out of this then? That is the dumb move I know that the clubs wont want to run sats as they are throwing money away because they have to suspend their normal games for the G P satelites which will send reg players elsewhere and that effects the numbers for weeks after.

[phatomch]

To clear this up in my mind
 
1. Are the players paying a session charge to play in the super sats and the sats or is it a 5% rake on those.

2. Is there then a 5% rake on the main prize pool before the 25k is added.

I agree witrh grandad on this one and think this is one of the best comps in England, tons of value ill be trying next year for it when I can play in Grosvenors again. Also to point out although Bluesquare are adding the money Grosvenors and Bluesquare are all Rank anyway so its all from the same source.

bit harsh isn't it? they are adding money after all........

Great spot! It whooshed me the first few times I read it.......

How many times did you read it?

23. I planned to suggest that Matt had been unreasonble in his suggestion, until the 23rd time.....

sorry edited now