The Grosvenor Grand Prix is back!

[tikay]

To clear this up in my mind
 
1. Are the players paying a session charge to play in the super sats and the sats or is it a 5% rake on those.

2. Is there then a 5% rake on the main prize pool before the 25k is added.

I agree witrh grandad on this one and think this is one of the best comps in England, tons of value ill be trying next year for it when I can play in Grosvenors again. Also to point out although Bluesquare are adding the money Grosvenors and Bluesquare are all Rank anyway so its all from the same source.

bit harsh isn't it? they are adding money after all........

Great spot! It whooshed me the first few times I read it.......

How many times did you read it?

More accurately, how many times did you misread it and was it easier to misread than two cards?

22. No, easier to misread two cards.

In Luton last night, I thought I'd flopped a set on the 8-J-K flop. Until I looked again - Post Showdown - to find I only had 8-6 in the hole.Won the Pot though.....They should Ban 8's or 6's - they look so alike.

My Exit hand was another shocker, too. Let's not revisit that.

[action man]

this is a brilliant tourney, played last 2 years hopefully qualify again.

[phatomch]

so the host clubs of the sats won't make any money out of this then? That is the dumb move I know that the clubs wont want to run sats as they are throwing money away because they have to suspend their normal games for the G P satelites which will send reg players elsewhere and that effects the numbers for weeks after.

[AlrightJack]

so the host clubs of the sats won't make any money out of this then? That is the dumb move I know that the clubs wont want to run sats as they are throwing money away because they have to suspend their normal games for the G P satelites which will send reg players elsewhere and that effects the numbers for weeks after.

Wrong. they get a piece of the 5%, as I mentioned in a post earlier in the thread, but Walsall will get their costs covered before each club gets their share.

[phatomch]

sorry my mistake i must of missed that post

[phatomch]

john can you remember how many runners we got last year for the gp?

[tikay]

john can you remember how many runners we got last year for the gp?

2007 - 214*

2006 - 240*

2005 - 218*

2004 - 183*

* = Might be wrong.

[phatomch]

just doing the sums on this

last year we collected £230,000   (Rank added £70k)

so  £230000 / £100 = 2300 buy'ins total

with a average of 2.5 per player  2300 / 2.5 =920 players took part in sats

920 / £10 (session charge) = £9200 taken across all clubs in fees

so say you get the same size prize pool this year £230000. - 5% =£11500

the difference is + £2300 or 20% extra juice

and thats not counting whats taken on the cash tables, now I guess this will be a 3 or 4 day event again so thats about £16-20k in cash fees on top which all goes to Walsall.

[Karabiner]

One reason for doing it this way is because of the nature of the event. Sats are self deal. Final is dealer dealt.

Am I the only person who noticed this ?

All of the satellites are self-dealt

[tikay]

just doing the sums on this

last year we collected £230,000   (Rank added £70k)

so  £230000 / £100 = 2300 buy'ins total

with a average of 2.5 per player  2300 / 2.5 =920 players took part in sats

920 / £10 (session charge) = £9200 taken across all clubs in fees

so say you get the same size prize pool this year £230000. - 5% =£11500

the difference is + £2300 or 20% extra juice

and thats not counting whats taken on the cash tables, now I guess this will be a 3 or 4 day event again so thats about £16-20k in cash fees on top which all goes to Walsall.

That may be flawed - don't forget that they run Online Satellites, too, which changes the ££ dynamics.

We are getting away from the issue though - do we want, & support, Embedded Reg Fees?

[AlrightJack]

One reason for doing it this way is because of the nature of the event. Sats are self deal. Final is dealer dealt.

Am I the only person who noticed this ?

All of the satellites are self-dealt

No, we provide a dealer for the sats that take place online at Blue Square.

[phatomch]

NO ,

[phatomch]

One reason for doing it this way is because of the nature of the event. Sats are self deal. Final is dealer dealt.

Am I the only person who noticed this ?

All of the satellites are self-dealt

No, we provide a dealer for the sats that take place online at Blue Square.

lol 

[tikay]

One reason for doing it this way is because of the nature of the event. Sats are self deal. Final is dealer dealt.

Am I the only person who noticed this ?

All of the satellites are self-dealt

Ugh. Better, & far easier, to qualify Online Ralph, on Blue Square.

[phatomch]

just doing the sums on this

last year we collected £230,000   (Rank added £70k)

so  £230000 / £100 = 2300 buy'ins total

with a average of 2.5 per player  2300 / 2.5 =920 players took part in sats

920 / £10 (session charge) = £9200 taken across all clubs in fees

so say you get the same size prize pool this year £230000. - 5% =£11500

the difference is + £2300 or 20% extra juice

and thats not counting whats taken on the cash tables, now I guess this will be a 3 or 4 day event again so thats about £16-20k in cash fees on top which all goes to Walsall.

That may be flawed - don't forget that they run Online Satellites, too, which changes the ££ dynamics.

We are getting away from the issue though - do we want, & support, Embedded Reg Fees?

Well its not getting away from it really because its showing that the prices are going up and up. I know that most casino's take a loss on running poker comps so I can understand why they are doing different things but it pangs of a under handed way of doing it.