Comments on how the hand was played

[jambo22]

Would appreciate your comments on this hand

£30 f/o level 4 antes 200 - 400
50 runners 40 left

Table fairly tight

me - sb with 7600 chips 
bb - 5500 chips
villian ug limper 9200 chips 
mid pos limper 6400 chips

no raise pre flop

flop 

I lead out for 700
bb fold
villian reraises to 1500
mid pos limper folds
I push allin for 6900
after a min or so villian calls the 6100

cards over, me  - villian  

How do you think this hand played out

I missed by the way

cheers

jambo

[Horneris]

Fold pre-flop.

On the flop, getting it in is standard/fine, but leading for 700 into an 1800 pot is a bit weird. Shouldve led for like 1.1k min. Altho its going in whatever v the AT ball.

I think he played it like a champion pre.

I think you messed up on the turn and river. Its important to get there in Poker, esp with FD & OESD. Id advise you to get there in the future.

[jambo22]

Fold pre-flop.

On the flop, getting it in is standard/fine, but leading for 700 into an 1800 pot is a bit weird. Shouldve led for like 1.1k min. Altho its going in whatever v the AT ball.

I think he played it like a champion pre.

I think you messed up on the turn and river. Its important to get there in Poker, esp with FD & OESD. Id advise you to get there in the future.

You would not make up the small blind ? I am not sure what you mean about messing up on the turn and river as all the chips went in on the flop

cheers

[Horneris]

Fold pre-flop.

On the flop, getting it in is standard/fine, but leading for 700 into an 1800 pot is a bit weird. Shouldve led for like 1.1k min. Altho its going in whatever v the AT ball.

I think he played it like a champion pre.

I think you messed up on the turn and river. Its important to get there in Poker, esp with FD & OESD. Id advise you to get there in the future.

You would not make up the small blind ? I am not sure what you mean about messing up on the turn and river as all the chips went in on the flop

cheers

no m8. I would do with   + in terms of suited 8 x's. I appreciate there is a lot of value and you're getting like 8-1 to make up, but i think 82, 83, 84 even suited are just too weak.

With the latter, i was just joking because you didnt hit.

[jambo22]

Fold pre-flop.

On the flop, getting it in is standard/fine, but leading for 700 into an 1800 pot is a bit weird. Shouldve led for like 1.1k min. Altho its going in whatever v the AT ball.

I think he played it like a champion pre.

I think you messed up on the turn and river. Its important to get there in Poker, esp with FD & OESD. Id advise you to get there in the future.

You would not make up the small blind ? I am not sure what you mean about messing up on the turn and river as all the chips went in on the flop

cheers

no m8. I would do with   + in terms of suited 8 x's. I appreciate there is a lot of value and you're getting like 8-1 to make up, but i think 82, 83, 84 even suited are just too weak.

With the latter, i was just joking because you didnt hit.

I never even considered folding pre. To be honest I probally never fold pre with the odds, no matter my cards. Must be the gambler in me

Sorry about missing the last bit. Not had my 2nd cup of tea yet )

[action man]

i like his 700 it looks weak so he can induce the raise so he can jam with FE and a heaven draw.

All pretty standard tho. as for the completing of the sb, meh, depends whether i need a piss/fag or not, callings not tez

[MC]

I like how you played the hand, I might have check raised...depends how I was feeling. But you got your money in as I think a slight favourite, and certainly gave him a chance to pass.

I always complete the sb here. Maybe later on in the tourney I wouldn't but now is fine.

[Royal Flush]

3 bet smaller, looks a lot stronger

[EvilPie]

3 bet smaller, looks a lot stronger

Does that mean we're trying to get him to fold?

[Royal Flush]

3 bet smaller, looks a lot stronger

Does that mean we're trying to get him to fold?

No we want him to make a +EV call....


Yes of course we want him to fold!!!

[MrsJambo]

your problem is you assume that the other people at the table can play poker, and analyse and think as much as you do.


lol

[Graham C]

your problem is you assume that the other people at the table can play poker, and analyse and think as much as you do.


lol

ha ha, was this a home game Mrs Jambo? Are you villain

[EvilPie]

3 bet smaller, looks a lot stronger

Does that mean we're trying to get him to fold?

No we want him to make a +EV call....


Yes of course we want him to fold!!!

So what do we 3 bet to? And do we fold to an all in?

Even 3k commits us so we've got to call a shove. I always thought the idea was that if you're prepared to go all in with a good draw but prefered a fold you shove to give them the decision.

I can't see how we're deep enough here to play anything other than shove/fold?

[action man]

obviously our money is going in regardless, but making it 3k may pick up the pot without showdown, if he flats he just jam the turn

[jambo22]

I agree with Evil. Don't think a 3bet in this situation is the correct play. Deeper stacks yip could be the play