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henrik777
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 04, 2008, 10:00:14 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on September 04, 2008, 07:36:21 PM
All the previous 50/50 stuff done on here by people like the clam and myself is done as a laugh that's why its always low limit stuff, we aren't doing it for profit, putting losing players into comps and expecting them to have a 100% roi is obv a random punt.
If i actually think a player has a decent edge and they ask me to play in a comp i usually look at 70-30, if its a larger buyin like this then i want more as my exposure is greater.
I would never seriously stake anyone in any comp @ 50-50 let alone one way out of their field of experience.
Staking in a single mtt is high risk. The way you stake Rookie is the only way to do it if you are looking for a decent return and not looking for the big score which only a few will get in any tournament (excluding high price buy ins).
I've had some stakes on here in the stars $30k (3000+ runners) and the tllt $24k (1000+ runners). If i had gone on to finish top 5 then a staker could get a good return for a one off punt.
Stars
1 * $11 stake with a cash for $55.60 ($22.30 profit each)
Tilt
1 * $26 stake with a cash for $74 ( $24 profit each)
Barry then staked me once and gave me 2 more for the $24k. I had 2 cashes for $47 but having played these too i have 1 game left.
After 7 * $26 stakes and 1 * $11 stake i'm not much in profit yet there are people who think i've done well because a high percentage of stakees don't cash and i've had 4 decent runs although not yet had a good cash. A run for their money yes but certainly not great value imo.
I'm sure plenty would like to stake Moorman1 but 35+ non cashes even for a big winner is possible
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/MoormanI/poker/results/BA58EA0A1BEA4A37BD3ED2C83E96632C.html?t=2
Sandy
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ChipRich
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 04, 2008, 11:31:13 PM »
Quote from: henrik777 on September 04, 2008, 10:00:14 PM
I'm sure plenty would like to stake Moorman1 but
35+ non cashes even for a big winner is possible
http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/fulltiltpoker/MoormanI/poker/results/BA58EA0A1BEA4A37BD3ED2C83E96632C.html?t=2
Sandy
This is pretty standard when playing so many MTTs though and running bad, so i don't get the point in saying this...
Gl whatever happens Mondatoo.
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 04, 2008, 11:35:06 PM »
Quote from: henrik777 on September 04, 2008, 10:00:14 PM
Staking in a single mtt is high risk.
It depends how often you do it surely, look at Channing does loads of one off's with people, he is doing alright out of it!
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mondatoo
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 04, 2008, 11:37:25 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on September 04, 2008, 11:35:06 PM
Quote from: henrik777 on September 04, 2008, 10:00:14 PM
Staking in a single mtt is high risk.
It depends how often you do it surely, look at Channing does loads of one off's with people, he is doing alright out of it!
Wonder if he'd be interested in staking me then
P.S Be nice now Flushy
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Royal Flush
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 04, 2008, 11:40:21 PM »
I wish you all the luck with it, i hope someone backs you and i hope you go on to come 3rd (after myself and my horse)
I didn't post anything earlier because i didn't see the point of saying i aint investing but seeing as you asked for people to post i did.
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mondatoo
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 04, 2008, 11:54:37 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on September 04, 2008, 11:40:21 PM
I wish you all the luck with it, i hope someone backs you and i hope you go on to come 3rd (after myself and my horse)
I didn't post anything earlier because i didn't see the point of saying i aint investing but seeing as you asked for people to post i did.
Thanks,I appreciated your comments (most of them anyway lol).Best of luck in it i will also have to wish you 3rd as i've already wished 1st to ripple and 2nd to your horse
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Jamier-Host
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 05, 2008, 12:43:16 AM »
Quote from: mondatoo on September 04, 2008, 12:16:21 AM
I have only played two very well structured tourneys imo one being the apat event a while back where i was chip leader overnight, chipleader final table and then took a pretty sick beat 5 handed to busto.The other as some will know is the equal chance main event which i ran deep in and finished 10th.
I feel really confident that i can do well in any tournament that has a similar type of structure as the two aforementioned as i feel my game really suits this style of poker.
Quote from: mondatoo on September 04, 2008, 12:16:21 AM
I attempted to qualify for 5 events I believe for the last ECOOP series (i would say i had maybe 2,3 attempts at most at a single event) and qualified for three of them
What happened in the three ECOOP main events??
If you can't afford to play this event but feel you have a big edge in slow deep stacked tournaments then I would suggest spending the weekend grinding in the Pokerstars deepstack tournaments. Hopefully your advantage will pay off and you will win enough to pay in directly to the iPoker tourno.
Remember there is no hurry to play this specific big event - they happen pretty often nowadays across the major networks, so another will be happening once you have built up your balance. It'll be much more satisfying playing for 100%!
Good luck!
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 05, 2008, 01:21:36 AM »
I don't see how staking someone in a sat and getting a 50/50 return in the main event is "ridiculous". Ok maybe you could argue for 60/40 in favour of the backer but not sure about less than that.
Just my opinion, I don't do staking as I don't see it as a profitable use of funds on the whole, with the exception being friends etc but that's not for the $.
Also on the point of Channing "doing alright for himself" at the one off stakes, you'd have to ask him, but don't be fooled by the occasional big scores. There have been lot's of "one offs" eating into those.
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 05, 2008, 01:43:37 AM »
Quote from: Dry em on September 05, 2008, 01:21:36 AM
I don't see how staking someone in a sat and getting a 50/50 return in the main event is "ridiculous".
Just my opinion, I don't do staking as I don't see it as a profitable use of funds
hmm
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henrik777
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 05, 2008, 06:18:10 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on September 04, 2008, 11:35:06 PM
Quote from: henrik777 on September 04, 2008, 10:00:14 PM
Staking in a single mtt is high risk.
It depends how often you do it surely, look at Channing does loads of one off's with people, he is doing alright out of it!
If you had staked Moorman1 on fulltilt for those consecutive non cashes would you have said that was enough beforehand ? Of course if you were lucky it would have been the Stars $500 where he scored big.
Short term = risky especially if the fields are big. Long term and a good horse will end up a good investment.
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mondatoo
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 05, 2008, 08:21:30 AM »
Quote from: Jamier-Host on September 05, 2008, 12:43:16 AM
Quote from: mondatoo on September 04, 2008, 12:16:21 AM
I have only played two very well structured tourneys imo one being the apat event a while back where i was chip leader overnight, chipleader final table and then took a pretty sick beat 5 handed to busto.The other as some will know is the equal chance main event which i ran deep in and finished 10th.
I feel really confident that i can do well in any tournament that has a similar type of structure as the two aforementioned as i feel my game really suits this style of poker.
Quote from: mondatoo on September 04, 2008, 12:16:21 AM
I attempted to qualify for 5 events I believe for the last ECOOP series (i would say i had maybe 2,3 attempts at most at a single event) and qualified for three of them
What happened in the three ECOOP main events??
If you can't afford to play this event but feel you have a big edge in slow deep stacked tournaments then I would suggest spending the weekend grinding in the Pokerstars deepstack tournaments. Hopefully your advantage will pay off and you will win enough to pay in directly to the iPoker tourno.
Remember there is no hurry to play this specific big event - they happen pretty often nowadays across the major networks, so another will be happening once you have built up your balance. It'll be much more satisfying playing for 100%!
Good luck!
Thanks for the comments.I came 29th in one event (however this was omaha h/l) in they other 2 lost a race in both quite deep,Got to learn how to win those races lol.The omaha h/l game i'd actually only been playing the game for a very short period so would say it was the skills I learn't playing the hold'em form of poker as much as my skill at h/l
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Re: The 2,500,000 on I-Poker
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September 06, 2008, 12:24:19 AM »
A blast from the past. Good player and I hope you take your opportunity with Ripple.
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mondatoo
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September 06, 2008, 12:27:46 AM »
Cheers That's actually not a bad pic imo lol
Yeah i did take up Nick's generous offer.
That's the one bad beat I've never managed to forget lol hmm
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mondatoo
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September 06, 2008, 02:07:40 AM »
Well had my 1st blast at a sat with my own money since my op to the princely sum of a $3 buy in stage 2 no rebuy needed and managed to get a seat through to stage 1 so will make a deposit so i have enough for the add on if i get that far lol.GL ME, ONE TIME AND ALL THAT
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September 06, 2008, 02:12:35 AM »
got a seat last night in a $25rb one time weeeeeeeeeeeee.
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