Was this bad play - not by me tho'

[deputydawg]

Not posting this cos of the beat but to gauge whether the play is as bad as I thought it was even though I was happy till the turn came

Scenario - Laddies irish festival first prize 100k euros, 18 left out of 832 and I am table CL with 1.1m chips approx having recently doubled up all in with QQ v AK. I have played tight all day and had villain on my table for most of the day, so he 'should' know that. Avg chips approx 600-650k. Villain has approx 800k chips. Blinds 15k/30k

BB is on phone as cards are dealt and his hand is mucked by dealer after I comment on this

UTG + 1 (M3Boy) raises to 75k, I am UTG+2 and have AA and reraise to 275k, villain in cut off reraises all in for 800k (obv.)

I obviously call and he hits Q on turn and cripples me

Was his play OK, bad or downright atrocious given neither me or the initial raiser are exactly wildly aggressive?

Honest I'm definitely not bitter he went on to donk his way to 65k euros lol

[AndrewT]

Was his play OK, bad or downright atrocious given neither me or the initial raiser are exactly wildly aggressive?

Dunno - depends on what he had.

[deputydawg]

sorry lol - he had QQ and there was also antes of 3k

[WellChief]

BB is on phone as cards are dealt and his hand is mucked by dealer after I comment on this


I obviously call and he hits Q on turn and cripples me

Sounds deserved to be honest!

[deputydawg]

BB is on phone as cards are dealt and his hand is mucked by dealer after I comment on this


I obviously call and he hits Q on turn and cripples me

Sounds deserved to be honest!

quite possibly if you approve of blatant rule breaking

the reason i put it in my post was in case it was a factor in him thinking I was 'at it'

[AndrewT]

sorry lol - he had QQ and there was also antes of 3k

Some players just don't think things through - they see QQ and think 'instapush' without thinking about the situation.

As someone much wiser once said:

[X] Live players are useless

[MC]

Was his play OK, bad or downright atrocious given neither me or the initial raiser are exactly wildly aggressive?

It's definitely possible to lay down here, and is probably bad on circumstance, but def don't think you can call it "downright atrocious"

[lazaroonie]

depends on who he was, what the money means to him etc etc.

also, in his position there are only two hands which are beating him, his job at that point is to either squeeze and take the pot, or get it down to heads up on the flop. he achieved this (i am ssuming m3boy would fold).

even if he just calls (would you seriously expect him to fold pocket queens?), a lowish flop means they are all going in anyway.

just unlucky.

[deputydawg]

depends on who he was, what the money means to him etc etc.

also, in his position there are only two hands which are beating him, his job at that point is to either squeeze and take the pot, or get it down to heads up on the flop. he achieved this (i am ssuming m3boy would fold).

even if he just calls (would you seriously expect him to fold pocket queens?), a lowish flop means they are all going in anyway.

just unlucky.

I was getting roughly 2.5 to 1 to call - easy with even the worst hand I could probably have i.e. AK so a squeeze was never going to work v. an e.p. raise and an e.p. re-raise

My thought in his position would be that at best I am doing that to race for my tourney life with above avg. chips - am i miles out with that thought process?

M3Boy, unsurprisingly, did fold

[AlexMartin]

standard, and seriously if ur 3b range here only AK+?

[deputydawg]

standard, and seriously if ur 3b range here only AK+?

he had played with me all day and I had played nothing worse. And TBH I wouldn't have 3 bet with anything less at this stage of the tourney as I could easily become a short stack by having odds to call a 4 bet with tripe.

So yes and no - but in this spot yes (rightly or wrongly)

[MC]

he had played with me all day and I had played nothing worse.

You made the final 4 playing only AA, KK and AK?

[Ironside]

he had played with me all day and I had played nothing worse.

You made the final 4 playing only AA, KK and AK?

wish i was a card rack too

[deputydawg]

he had played with me all day and I had played nothing worse.

You made the final 4 playing only AA, KK and AK?

this is now a bit pointless so let's end the thread as I said earlier that I had doubled thru' with QQ and that the worst I had been seen to 3 bet with all day was AK. Perhaps if that isn't understandable then I would rather get comments from those who can.

And of course I only played AA, KK and AK for 24 hours - isn't that what always happens lol

I had actually had AA once in first 2 days and KK twice and lost both times so perhaps not

[celtic]

he shoved for 800k. It is not unreasonable to assume u could have AQ, JJ 10 10 etc. You got unlucky and thats all there is too it imo. Had he called an 800k shove with QQ then that may have been a bit more dubious.

Next case.........