roy keane

[Nem]

You're  just clutching at straws. When Spurs were owned by Alan Sugar, I use to always try and argue with the Arsenal fans. I use to try and say,"Yeah but we have Ruel Fox, Chris Armstrong etc..." when they used to say we have 4 world cup winners, Marc Overmars and we won the double. I was clutching at straws, just trying to save face for my former great club, just like Celtic. But the reality of it is this, Chris Sutton cost Chelsea £10,000,000. He scored 1 goal for Chelsea out of 33 stars and then they sold him to Celtic (LOL) His first season playing for Celtic he scored 14 times out of 36.

As they say, there's lies, damned lies & statistics. In 9 years in England Sutton scored 2 European goals. He's scored 16 in 5 years at Celtic (including against Blackburn & Barcelona).

Your judging a great striker on 1 bad year in a team who's style didn't suit him. What about when he was partnering Shearer & ripping up the EPL?

Quote games to goals, not years in the league to goals LOL

[Nem]

Your judging a great striker on 1 bad year in a team who's style didn't suit him. What about when he was partnering Shearer & ripping up the EPL?

"Your judging a great striker"

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

"What about when he was partnering Shearer & ripping up the EPL?"

That was 10 years ago ffs!

[Div]

This could run and run. Let's have another shot at it.....

Yes, you have a big ground,very very strong fanactical support but the big 6 EPL teams will all have bigger grounds than Celtic within 10 years, all the EPL teams are growing bigger and bigger, whilst Celtic are just where they were.

Celtic Park has a CURRENT capacity of over 60,000. The ground is only three-quarters developed.

The board has stated previously that the final stage of redevelopment will only occur when demand merits it. Which in their eyes would probably only occur upon joining some sort of British or European league.

The likely final capacity would be over 70,000, and perhaps as high as 80,000.

As for EPL teams growing bigger and bigger....

The most recent State of the Game report states that the EPL is "experiencing a growing crisis with stagnant attendances and a lack of a competitive balance".

[Nem]

This could run and run. Let's have another shot at it.....

Yes, you have a big ground,very very strong fanactical support but the big 6 EPL teams will all have bigger grounds than Celtic within 10 years, all the EPL teams are growing bigger and bigger, whilst Celtic are just where they were.

Celtic Park has a CURRENT capacity of over 60,000. The ground is only three-quarters developed.

The board has stated previously that the final stage of redevelopment will only occur when demand merits it. Which in their eyes would probably only occur upon joining some sort of British or European league.

The likely final capacity would be over 70,000, and perhaps as high as 80,000.

As for EPL teams growing bigger and bigger....

The most recent State of the Game report states that the EPL is "experiencing a growing crisis with stagnant attendances and a lack of a competitive balance".

Decent Post, but!

"The board has stated previously that the final stage of redevelopment will only occur when demand merits it. Which in their eyes would probably only occur upon joining some sort of British or European league."

Like I said in my previous post, the likely hood of Celtic joing a Euro league or a British league are as slim as a anorexic piece of paper.

" The most recent State of the Game report states that the EPL is "experiencing a growing crisis with stagnant attendances and a lack of a competitive balance".

What I mean is the top 6 Big clubs in the EPL are getting bigger and bigger and soon the big 6 will have gate attendences as big as they were pre war (1930-1939)

Here is a table showing that "Stagnant attendances" are only represented by the smaller clubs. Notice that 5 of the 6 big clubs attendences average over 99% capacity.

[Rod Paradise]

Like I said in my previous post, the likely hood of Celtic joing a Euro league or a British league are as slim as a anorexic piece of paper.

Don't be so confident. 

Insider info CSC No 1

[The Baron]

Half of the world's top 20 richest clubs are British. 8 of those are English.

I'm not sure Celtic make the top 10 and I'm pretty sure Rangers are 19th or 20th.

I'll see if I can find the table for you - but to say big English clubs are a step down from the big Scottish two is a joke. Rangers are about as rich as Villa! (No offence Snoop!) Celtic are around the Spurs/Newcastle/Liverpool area.

Now taking this into consideration, you're better off playing for the English equivalent of your Scottish club as it's a better league.

[The Baron]

The Deloitte Football Money League – 2003/04 season


Rank (Prior year) Club Income (In millions)
1 (1)
 Manchester United
 €259.0
 
2 (4)
 Real Madrid
 236.0
 
3 (3)
 AC Milan
 222.3
 
4 (10)
 Chelsea
 217.0
 
5 (2)
 Juventus
 215.0
 
6 (7)
 Arsenal
 173.6
 
7 (13)
 Barcelona
 169.2
 
8 (6)
 Internazionale
 166.5
 
9 (5)
 Bayern Munich
 166.3
 
10 (
 Liverpool
 139.5
 
11 (9)
 Newcastle United
 136.6
 
12 (11)
 AS Roma
 108.8
 
13 (18)
 Celtic
 104.2
 
14 (16)
 Tottenham Hotspur
 100.1
 
15 (15)
 SS Lazio
 99.4
 
16 (n/a)
 Manchester City
 93.5
 
17 (14)
 Schalke 04
 91.4
 
18 (n/a)
 Olympique Marseille
 88.0
 
19 (n/a)
 Rangers
 86.2
 
20 (n/a)
 Aston Villa
 84.4
 
Source: Deloitte Football Money League

[The Baron]

I take it back. Even with their superior capacity, the Celtic "brand" still makes 30 million Euros less than Newcastle and almost 40 million Euros less than Liverpool. Huge step down there.

[Teacake]

Notice the leagues that these top 20 play in

All are dominated by huge TV contracts

One does not

[Nem]

Notice the leagues that these top 20 play in

All are dominated by huge TV contracts

One does not

Still clucthing at straws......

[Teacake]

Notice the leagues that these top 20 play in

All are dominated by huge TV contracts

One does not

Still clucthing at straws......

Still not getting it... 

[snoopy1239]

Half of the world's top 20 richest clubs are British. 8 of those are English.

I'm not sure Celtic make the top 10 and I'm pretty sure Rangers are 19th or 20th.

I'll see if I can find the table for you - but to say big English clubs are a step down from the big Scottish two is a joke. Rangers are about as rich as Villa! (No offence Snoop!) Celtic are around the Spurs/Newcastle/Liverpool area.

Now taking this into consideration, you're better off playing for the English equivalent of your Scottish club as it's a better league.

Villa are 19th.

[patman]

SO.

to recap.
ON THE CLUB
celtic are a huge club in a small league who punch above their weight because of that league
Nemesis thinks most of the epl are bigger and various figures get flung around which can be read, misread or ignored. he also thinks that they will never get out of scotland. I suspect he also thinks the spl cannot possibly be of a decent level or be able to attract and hold good players which is a wee bit unkind
the scots point out that as a club celtic are bigger than most of these already and with revenue gain from being in another league(british, world, european) would very quickly overtake most with the exception of man utd. As it stands they are 13th whilst being in a small league hence the view that given access to a bigger revenue scheme with a level financial playing ground celtic would grow exponentially.

Phew..still with me

THE PLAYERS

SUTTON is either a dud or a prolific success story in europe over a prolongued period...a discussion that is not worth getting into

Now meanwhile back at the ranch, ROY KEANE who the thread was about is smokin dope and thinking celtic or any other club are going to pay 90k to get him >:?

now there is a real loony.....the rest of this thread is just chewin the kud

have a gooood evening folks

[Nem]

SO.

to recap.
ON THE CLUB
celtic are a huge club in a small league who punch above their weight because of that league
Nemesis thinks most of the epl are bigger and various figures get flung around which can be read, misread or ignored. he also thinks that they will never get out of scotland. I suspect he also thinks the spl cannot possibly be of a decent level or be able to attract and hold good players which is a wee bit unkind
the scots point out that as a club celtic are bigger than most of these already and with revenue gain from being in another league(british, world, european) would very quickly overtake most with the exception of man utd. As it stands they are 13th whilst being in a small league hence the view that given access to a bigger revenue scheme with a level financial playing ground celtic would grow exponentially.

Phew..still with me

THE PLAYERS

SUTTON is either a dud or a prolific success story in europe over a prolongued period...a discussion that is not worth getting into

Now meanwhile back at the ranch, ROY KEANE who the thread was about is smokin dope and thinking celtic or any other club are going to pay 90k to get him >:?

now there is a real loony.....the rest of this thread is just chewin the kud

have a gooood evening folks

 

[raab11]

great post patman

at last a voice of reason amongst the madness..

...this thread should end with this sensible tone

raab