Screwed by a Bookmaker.. should I get revenge?

[The Camel]

In a story too long to go into, I've been screwed by a big bookmaker for about £1,000.

I know morally I am 100% in the right, but after trying to get my cash by contacting IBAS and the Racing Post it looked like all is lost.

But, Neteller is currently offering their VIP clients a special offer. For the next month or so, for every deposit you make with a "merchant" they will give you 0.5% of the transaction.

Do you think it's morally acceptable for me to deposit and withdraw £10,000 once a day for 20 days, so I get my £1,000 they basically stole from me?

I know it's likely I will get my account closed when they see what I'm doing, but as they restrict my bets to a maximum of £100, that's no big deal to me.

I am assuming they pay neteller some percentage of each deposit as a fee. So it will mean I am earning NT alot of dosh.

[maldini32]

Absa-fkin-lutely!

Especially if you believe your in the right m8.

Gl with this.

[thetank]

Always morally acceptable to screw big bookmakers.

Might not necessary be £1,000 of EV you're taking back though. If your VIP neteller account gets shut down, will this not cost you something in the future?

[action man]

not worth the hassle keith imo. The best way to do it would be to buy an A9 greyhound for about £500 get a trainer to "get him ready" then go round all of the shops on a mad spree and stick loads on at sp. Make sure it is in a BAGS meeting. Then have a word with one or two of the on track bookie's and make them drift the price to around 7/1, then when it storms in u go collecting with a smile on your face. It's your dog afterall, whats wrong with having a few quid on?

obv call the dog sweet revenge. pm me before it runs ty.

[Karabiner]

In a story too long to go into, I've been screwed by a big bookmaker for about £1,000.

I know morally I am 100% in the right, but after trying to get my cash by contacting IBAS and the Racing Post it looked like all is lost.

But, Neteller is currently offering their VIP clients a special offer. For the next month or so, for every deposit you make with a "merchant" they will give you 0.5% of the transaction.

Do you think it's morally acceptable for me to deposit and withdraw £10,000 once a day for 20 days, so I get my £1,000 they basically stole from me?

I know it's likely I will get my account closed when they see what I'm doing, but as they restrict my bets to a maximum of £100, that's no big deal to me.

I am assuming they pay neteller some percentage of each deposit as a fee. So it will mean I am earning NT alot of dosh.

One possible hitch with your plan Keith is that there may be small print requiring you to "churn" your deposit before they allow you to withdraw it. I know that this is the case with some poker sites.

[bolt pp]

not worth the hassle keith imo. The best way to do it would be to buy an A9 greyhound for about £500 get a trainer to "get him ready" then go round all of the shops on a mad spree and stick loads on at sp. Make sure it is in a BAGS meeting. Then have a word with one or two of the on track bookie's and make them drift the price to around 7/1, then when it storms in u go collecting with a smile on your face. It's your dog afterall, whats wrong with having a few quid on?

obv call the dog sweet revenge. pm me before it runs ty.

In my experieince of having a lump on a dog in a BAGS meeting in a highstreet bookies they usually wont let you take the price.

[bolt pp]

In a story too long to go into, I've been screwed by a big bookmaker for about £1,000.

I know morally I am 100% in the right, but after trying to get my cash by contacting IBAS and the Racing Post it looked like all is lost.

But, Neteller is currently offering their VIP clients a special offer. For the next month or so, for every deposit you make with a "merchant" they will give you 0.5% of the transaction.

Do you think it's morally acceptable for me to deposit and withdraw £10,000 once a day for 20 days, so I get my £1,000 they basically stole from me?

I know it's likely I will get my account closed when they see what I'm doing, but as they restrict my bets to a maximum of £100, that's no big deal to me.

I am assuming they pay neteller some percentage of each deposit as a fee. So it will mean I am earning NT alot of dosh.

can you paraphrase?

i'm intigued to know what happend now?

[doubleup]

Do you think it's morally acceptable for me to deposit and withdraw £10,000 once a day for 20 days, so I get my £1,000 they basically stole from me?

Why don't you just deposit and witdraw £200k once?

[action man]

not worth the hassle keith imo. The best way to do it would be to buy an A9 greyhound for about £500 get a trainer to "get him ready" then go round all of the shops on a mad spree and stick loads on at sp. Make sure it is in a BAGS meeting. Then have a word with one or two of the on track bookie's and make them drift the price to around 7/1, then when it storms in u go collecting with a smile on your face. It's your dog afterall, whats wrong with having a few quid on?

obv call the dog sweet revenge. pm me before it runs ty.

In my experieince of having a lump on a dog in a BAGS meeting in a highstreet bookies they usually wont let you take the price.

yeah, but he's not taking the price, its a knock out job, the bookies on course are in on the coup and drift the dog out for a healthy sp

[bolt pp]

not worth the hassle keith imo. The best way to do it would be to buy an A9 greyhound for about £500 get a trainer to "get him ready" then go round all of the shops on a mad spree and stick loads on at sp. Make sure it is in a BAGS meeting. Then have a word with one or two of the on track bookie's and make them drift the price to around 7/1, then when it storms in u go collecting with a smile on your face. It's your dog afterall, whats wrong with having a few quid on?

obv call the dog sweet revenge. pm me before it runs ty.

In my experieince of having a lump on a dog in a BAGS meeting in a highstreet bookies they usually wont let you take the price.

yeah, but he's not taking the price, its a knock out job, the bookies on course are in on the coup and drift the dog out for a healthy sp

for the knock out job it has to be a pretty empty track with a weak market(that being said the state of the game today,especially BAGS meetings) that's most of em.

The way i'm running at the moment we'd get a dog up at about 7's that was 1/2 a second faster than anything else in the field but wound up getting knocked about all over the gaff to get bt a short head!!!

[action man]

yeah had those.

i only fancied one dog on the bags yesterday. It was the 3.58 at monmore () and the 2 dog was a bitch in form, the time dog and had slight trouble. It looked booked to lead the 1 up and folow the 3 round. I marked it up as a 7/4 shot. It opened up 7/2 so i had a decent bet on it, then all of a sudden there was trouble at the traps. It looked to involve trap 3, so the dogs went back to the kennels to be checked by the vets. The 3 dog was withdrawn and the new market opened up at 5/2 about the 2dog. Ive never seen a rule4 in a dog race but thought they existed. It won and as the 3dog was a 7/1 shot expected 15p in the pound reduction, instead of what i got, SP at 5/2 FML

[bolt pp]

yeah had those.

i only fancied one dog on the bags yesterday. It was the 3.58 at monmore () and the 2 dog was a bitch in form, the time dog and had slight trouble. It looked booked to lead the 1 up and folow the 3 round. I marked it up as a 7/4 shot. It opened up 7/2 so i had a decent bet on it, then all of a sudden there was trouble at the traps. It looked to involve trap 3, so the dogs went back to the kennels to be checked by the vets. The 3 dog was withdrawn and the new market opened up at 5/2 about the 2dog. Ive never seen a rule4 in a dog race but thought they existed. It won and as the 3dog was a 7/1 shot expected 15p in the pound reduction, instead of what i got, SP at 5/2 FML

hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm , the way you've read the race(if you've read it right) you shouldve had a press up!!!

5/2 seems huge value now IMO, this is why....

You've marked the dog up as a 7/4 shot when looking to get it round the first trouble free in 2nd or third, it's not only got extra room to manouvre with next door vacant(i know this is important in those six bend affairs at monmore cos it's quite a short run to the first bend) but now it looks booked to lead as well with the early pace dog out?

surley a press up job?

[action man]

nah, had a bigger than usual bet on it as it was.

[The Camel]

In a story too long to go into, I've been screwed by a big bookmaker for about £1,000.

I know morally I am 100% in the right, but after trying to get my cash by contacting IBAS and the Racing Post it looked like all is lost.

But, Neteller is currently offering their VIP clients a special offer. For the next month or so, for every deposit you make with a "merchant" they will give you 0.5% of the transaction.

Do you think it's morally acceptable for me to deposit and withdraw £10,000 once a day for 20 days, so I get my £1,000 they basically stole from me?

I know it's likely I will get my account closed when they see what I'm doing, but as they restrict my bets to a maximum of £100, that's no big deal to me.

I am assuming they pay neteller some percentage of each deposit as a fee. So it will mean I am earning NT alot of dosh.

can you paraphrase?

i'm intigued to know what happend now?

Basically they had an advert in the Racing Post which included which I thought was an amazing "money back" special offer.

I went to a shop and had £1000 on the bet. And sure enough it lost but triggered the money back offer.

I went to collect my refund only to be told "the refund applies to phone and net clients only".

Sure enough, the next time they ran the ad, the rider was there. BUT IT DEFINITELY WASN'T THERE THE DAY I HAD MY BET!

they used the old "other t&c's apply" card and refused to pay. I would never had the bet if the cashback offer hadn't been made. They never would have laid me the bet on the net or phone.

I think I was screwed.

[The Camel]

Always morally acceptable to screw big bookmakers.

Might not necessary be £1,000 of EV you're taking back though. If your VIP neteller account gets shut down, will this not cost you something in the future?

Don't see why my NT would get shut down.. they are making the offer to encourage people to make lots of deposits and withdrawals surely?