bubble hand in a sat

[Ironside]

72 quailfy for finals but there is prizes awarded for top 45

should i just try and get past bubble?

or play hand different

or id i play ok and just get pokered


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PokerStars Game #22988188621: Tournament #124189659, Freeroll  Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (625/1250) - 2008/12/17 3:09:30 WET [2008/12/16 22:09:30 ET]
Table '124189659 60' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Would-Be83 (63588 in chips)
Seat 2: DjFog86 (12726 in chips)
Seat 4: sebajtobi (3459 in chips)
Seat 5: huanguito10 (7268 in chips)
Seat 6: Ironside (15621 in chips)
Seat 7: Rex Ferric (26947 in chips)
Seat 8: GiMac (3975 in chips)
Seat 9: ericqc82 (2580 in chips)
Would-Be83: posts the ante 150
DjFog86: posts the ante 150
sebajtobi: posts the ante 150
huanguito10: posts the ante 150
Ironside: posts the ante 150
Rex Ferric: posts the ante 150
GiMac: posts the ante 150
ericqc82: posts the ante 150
DjFog86: posts small blind 625
sebajtobi: posts big blind 1250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ironside [As ]
huanguito10: folds
Ironside: raises 2500 to 3750
Rex Ferric: calls 3750
GiMac: folds
GiMac said, "nop point slow playin now guys we are hand for hand"
ericqc82: folds
Would-Be83: folds
DjFog86: folds
sebajtobi: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Ironside: bets 5000
Rex Ferric: calls 5000
*** TURN *** [ ] []
Ironside: bets 6721 and is all-in
Rex Ferric: calls 6721
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ironside: shows [As ] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Rex Ferric: shows [ ] (a flush, Queen high)
Rex Ferric collected 34017 from pot
Would-Be83 said, "ouch"
Ironside said, "fvk"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 34017 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: Would-Be83 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: DjFog86 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: sebajtobi (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: huanguito10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Ironside showed [As ] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 7: Rex Ferric showed [ ] and won (34017) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 8: GiMac folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ericqc82 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[TheChipPrince]

Is there 73 left at this point?  You have 12 BB's pre, I would just push the lot in especially with the ante's, if there are prizes for finishing 45th and higher...

If its just 73 left and 72 through i'd fold...

[Ironside]

73 left 72 get seat in the final

45+ get small prizes
winner gets an entry into alot of sunday majors
top 9 get entry into 2 215$ sunday comps

so it was playing to win and get seat

[Graham C]

I'd have just shoved preflop.

[Laxie]

I'd have just shoved preflop.

Same here.  Happy to take down the blinds and antes for now.  Can get cute with hands like that after the bubble bursts. 

That said, the guy had only a flush draw from the flop and had called off half his stack by the turn despite lack of improvement, so he may very well have called an all in pre if he was that in love with the hand.

[gatso]

tbh I think you've played this terribly. I'm not quite understanding the prize structure, is it small prizes for the top 45 with the sunday biggie entries being prizes only in the final? if so then this is a pass pre-flop.

or is it small prizes for the top 45 with sunday biggies for the top 9 in this tourney plus a seperate final with more prizes? in this case it's a shove pre.

once you've seen a flop you're only likely to get action from someone who has you beat. as it played you nearly got lucky against a villain who is clueless but that shouldn't make you feel you played it right

[Graham C]

It's a Stars Freeroll, the top 72 qualify for the final on Sunday, but there are prizes for the top 45.  The Sunday Biggie is for the winner only.  Prizes start at a Step 2 ticket and move up gradually, but no significant prizes until the FT.

[gatso]

The Sunday Biggie is for the winner only.

the winner of this game or the final?

no significant prizes until the FT.

ft of this or just the final?

[Graham C]

This game.

[gatso]

in that case shove pre

what are the prizes in the final? is this the one you've qualified for graham?

[pokerfan]

final
1st   PokerStars Caribbean Adventure prize package - worth $14,300
2nd   European Poker Tour±  prize package + SCOOP‡ Main Event ticket + Step 6 ticket - worth $11,100
3rd   European Poker Tour± prize package - worth $7,500
4th   SCOOP Main Event ticket + Step 6 ticket - worth $3,675
5th   Step 6 ticket - worth $2,100
6th   SCOOP Main Event ticket - worth $1,575
7th   $1,050 Tournament entry
8th   Step 5 ticket
9th   $530 Tournament entry
10th-18th   $320 Tournament entry
19th-27th   $215 Tournament entry
28th-45th   $109 Tournament entry
46th-100th   Step 3 ticket


qualifierPlaces   Freeroll Qualifiers - Prizes Awarded
1st   WBCOOP Final seat + Sunday Majors Platinum Package*
2nd-9th   WBCOOP Final seat + Sunday Majors Gold Package**
10th-27th   WBCOOP Final seat + Step 3 Ticket
28th-45th   WBCOOP Final seat + Step 2 Ticket
46th-72nd   WBCOOP Final seat

[Graham C]

Yeah I'm in the final already, decent prizes for sure in that, would love any of the final table prizes, in fact, I'm not fussy, I' d be happy just getting any prize

[pokerfan]

2nd looks the best to me.

[gatso]

ooo, nice freeroll prizes. glgl

[MANTIS01]

qualifierPlaces   Freeroll Qualifiers - Prizes Awarded
1st   WBCOOP Final seat + Sunday Majors Platinum Package*
2nd-9th   WBCOOP Final seat + Sunday Majors Gold Package**
10th-27th   WBCOOP Final seat + Step 3 Ticket
28th-45th   WBCOOP Final seat + Step 2 Ticket
46th-72nd   WBCOOP Final seat

This is a normal prize structure isn't it? Basic prize at the bottom, better prizes at the ft, best prize for 1st. If all the prizes were the same then pushing or folding your Aces would be reasonable. If the prize structure isn't flat how can you argue that playing your hand badly is ok? If you push A-A to make 72nd J-Q will fold, and is that what you really want? If you play the hand the way you did then you get all your chips in against J-Q drawing dead to a club, and if the prizes escalate you must want that. If you are gunning for the ft the bubble is the time to get chips.