Egg on my face......

[tikay]

I played an Online MTT the other day on Sky Poker, along with 200 players, 6 of whom were Sky Poker Analysts, the highlights of the Tourney are to be shown on TV, on Boxing Day, particularly featuring the plays the Analysts made.

I wanted to do well in this, obviously, & there's a "spotlight" on me

We all began with 2,000 chips, £20 Buy-In, 7 minute clock, 6 seater table. Bragging Rights are huge.

I don't play a hand for the first Level, but the guy to my immediate left was in every pot, & had doubled up already.

I have 1,850, BB has 4,000.

Blinds go 25-50, 2 limpers, & I find  in the SB.

Given I have "profile" on the Site, & I tend to get called by a very wide range of hands there, I decide to Over-Raise, & make it 450 to go, I want to build a decent Pot, as I won't be playing many hands early doors, so here's a chance to get a playable stack. I want & almost expect the BB to Call, given his performance so far, & the others to all Pass. I get it right, that's exactly what happened. So, just me & the very active BB now.

It comes......

Hmm.

I make my play almost on instinct now, particularly thinking forward to what might happen on streets 4 & 5.

If I check this wet flop, (of which I think he has none of) & he Bets, I'm calling or shoving.

If I check this Flop, & he shoves, I'm calling.

If I bet this flop & he flats, I'm shoving on the Turn unless a A falls. As I'm playing a shallow stack, I'd be pot-stuck by then, anyway.

So I shoved all-in. He quickly called with the nuts, 

Oops.

I have to explain this in a phone-in to the Show yesterday, & I do just that. And the studio concensus was "We hate that flop Shove".

I just see it as a bit of a cold deck, disappointing, but shrug shoulders, & move on.

Were there any alternatives here, at any stage of the hand?

[kinboshi]

7-minute clock.  What hand are you waiting for if you aren't shoving with QQ here?

[lazaroonie]

the telling line for me is when you say you dont think he has any of the flop....so why are you shoving then ?

[tikay]

the telling line for me is when you say you dont think he has any of the flop....so why are you shoving then ?

It just "felt", instinctively, the right thing to do. If I pot it, that's 1,000, out of my 1,450, leaving me 450.

Do I have any other options, then?

What would you suggest?

[Dingdell]

the telling line for me is when you say you dont think he has any of the flop....so why are you shoving then ?

It just "felt", instinctively, the right thing to do. If I pot it, that's 1,000, out of my 2,400, leaving me 1,400.

Do I have any other options, then?

What would you suggest?

Ignore your instincts. No need to thank me.

[lazaroonie]

the telling line for me is when you say you dont think he has any of the flop....so why are you shoving then ?

It just "felt", instinctively, the right thing to do. If I pot it, that's 1,000, out of my 1,450, leaving me 450.

Do I have any other options, then?

What would you suggest?

play deeper stacked tourneys...

seriously though, i bet maybe a little less than half. you can at least get away from it if he re-raises it.

its a scary flop, but you still need to bet it

[Karabiner]

It's a cooler imo, I'd have shoved the flop too.

[tikay]

the telling line for me is when you say you dont think he has any of the flop....so why are you shoving then ?

It just "felt", instinctively, the right thing to do. If I pot it, that's 1,000, out of my 1,450, leaving me 450.

Do I have any other options, then?

What would you suggest?

play deeper stacked tourneys...

seriously though, i bet maybe a little less than half. you can at least get away from it if he re-raises it.

its a scary flop, but you still need to bet it

Well, there you have it - barring an Ace, I' don't feel I CAN get away from it, & I don't want to. That's not to say I was right, but it seemed so, to me.

[T_Mar]

You right to want to get all the chips in here imo, however seeing how active/aggro he's been I would crai on the flop...you have the best hand nearly all the time here, and the times he's whiffed completely you letting him off by open shoving the flop

[ChipRich]

Bet 600 on flop, and snap his shove for your last 850.

Just a cooler, that your never ever getting away from this shallow.

[action man]

I have to explain this in a phone-in to the Show yesterday, & I do just that. And the studio concensus was "We hate that flop Shove".

why are t.v analyst's the most results orientated people on the planet.

[action man]

the telling line for me is when you say you dont think he has any of the flop....so why are you shoving then ?

It just "felt", instinctively, the right thing to do. If I pot it, that's 1,000, out of my 1,450, leaving me 450.

Do I have any other options, then?

What would you suggest?

play deeper stacked tourneys...

seriously though, i bet maybe a little less than half. you can at least get away from it if he re-raises it.
its a scary flop, but you still need to bet it

plz no one ever fold this, this shallow

[tikay]

You right to want to get all the chips in here imo, however seeing how active/aggro he's been I would crai on the flop...you have the best hand nearly all the time here, and the times he's whiffed completely you letting him off by open shoving the flop

I quite like that line of thinking, & would be my default play if deeper-stacked. No good in this case, of course, as it turned out.

[action man]

as per the hand, we arent getting away from it. my line would be to induce a bluff so i bet 350-450 and snap the shove.

[LeKnave]

as per the hand, we arent getting away from it. my line would be to induce a bluff so i bet 350-450 and snap the shove.

yeah, i'd also do this.