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TonyG
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Tony G response
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November 24, 2005, 11:19:37 AM »
I have looked over at all the comments about me and I appreciate all
the attention, I am disappointed that some comments were deleted, I am
very cool with anyone saying anything they like about me.
One thing is for sure
I did not change and become somebody else during the Monte Carlo
Millions. I was as I always am when there is so much pressure and such
a high profile event. Poker to me is a sport I love the game and most
important I love to win. To get an edge I am loud and intimidating and if
I knock you out and I think you are a good player I may rub it in
after all I will be coming up against you again. I will not swear or
abuse you looks or family It will all be about poker. Also in the heat
of the moment I lose control and sometimes I wish I did not but at the
end of the day I am the way I am. Everyone is welcome to hate me or
love me. I know one thing so far I have loved to play poker and have
enjoyed this game immensely, I will continue to be me and I hope that
all can respect that.
Most interesting comment was from Dave that I am an
"Embarrassment to Blonde Poker"
This could be true but as I say again I was always like this, Dave was
with me in final table in Paris I believe I was worse there. IF you
have a problem with me knocking out and abusing the Hendon Mob players
I am amazed. This is what I said to Ram after he was trapped bluffing
me. "I love to knock the mobsters out" With the mob I have a very
long history and I seriously would question anyone that could be upset
by me abusing one of these poor guys after getting a beating from me.
These people are the 4 best European players they represent Europe in
Monaco against USA they play for free they are real professionals. Ram
can take it I know that, I love Ram he is great for the game also he
is a very very good poker player. I am sure Ram is cool with me, the
rest of the mob are a joke to poker the results speak for them selfs.
They might be good guys but they are terrible poker players.
Camel had some nice things to say about me as well, I can not wait
till I get the camel on my table hope you can scrape the buy in together.
And hey why are you not in Moncao wa***** like you can only sit at home
and abuse people like me. You know me better then to take a cheap shot
at me Camel.
Most important thing off all to me is that Poker is a sport and its
rough out there its tough and nasty on the felt. But after the poker is over we
are all human beings with compassion remorse and feelings. I do not
take what happens on the poker table home. I have many interests
outside playing poker and I hope that there is room in the poker game
for somebody like me, after all we humans are different in so many
ways. Ram said this to me " Your a showman and the game needs a
showman"
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Karabiner
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Re: Tony G response
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November 24, 2005, 11:30:21 AM »
Tony, I did say during the update that I tought that the way that you behaved was a disgrace.
I stand by that and would say the same thing to your face.
You are a high profile player, and as such you have a responsibility to younger players to set a good example.
I personally would not like to see our local cardrooms full of people behaving like you and Phil Hellmuth do.
Give me John Juanda and Phil Ivey behave-a-likes any day
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Re: Tony G response
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November 24, 2005, 11:32:42 AM »
Hi Guys,
Just want to post a brief thing here, before everyone shoots off (mind the puns!). Whilst I am a bti shocked at Tony's choice of words against a fellow player away from the table, I am sure that he meant it with his tongue firmly in his cheek, and as such, he is merely making a point.
We don't like insults being thrown on Blonde, as you all know, and we'd like it to stay that way
You can shout at me if you like, that's me job
Heid
xx
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November 24, 2005, 11:34:16 AM »
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Camel had some nice things to say about me as well, I can not wait
till I get the camel on my table hope you can scrape the buy in together.
And hey why are you not in Moncao wa***** like you can only sit at home
and abuse people like me. You know me better then to take a cheap shot
at me Camel.
Totally uncalled for!
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Re: Tony G response
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November 24, 2005, 11:43:17 AM »
tony I admire your balls for making this statement, I have never seen anyone as emotional as you at a poker table. When I first heard of the occurances at monte carlo i was not happy. However there is banter like that going on in every homegame going all over the world. You are very entertaining player tony, but sometimes you have to think of the opponents in situations where your behavior may be deemed ungentlemanly. I know you are a world class player and imo you don't need the edge from winding players up at the table, it just makes them determined to try extra hard next time you meet. What i admire about you the most is that you speak from your heart and never hide a thing, rather like a man who you comment on in the above statement.
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Re: Tony G response
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November 24, 2005, 11:45:16 AM »
I think it's cheap all of the people who don't know someone writing cheap shots about an event they are getting written reports about. Believe me the abuse I took for defending someone just showed what the true colors are behind the people posting anonymously. You have to understand other people can be very jealous of your accomplishments. The fact that nobody comes online posting hate about the homeless guys yelling obcenities and telling you that you're going to hell illustrate this point, or in a poker poker sense the railbirds looking for a buyin.
Believe me, even if you are friendly with everyone and never show emotion people still won't like you. As someone who is young and fairly successful I see what abuse me and my friends take on a daily basis for no reason. It's something you just have to live with.
As for Dave being angry with you, maybe that is a problem as I have yet to see him out of line. But maybe this time you both were, I don't know. I wasn't there to judge, he was.
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November 24, 2005, 11:48:08 AM »
Quote from: TraceT on November 24, 2005, 11:34:16 AM
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Camel had some nice things to say about me as well, I can not wait
till I get the camel on my table hope you can scrape the buy in together.
And hey why are you not in Moncao wa***** like you can only sit at home
and abuse people like me. You know me better then to take a cheap shot
at me Camel.
Totally uncalled for!
It's one of those things, camel was far out of line first.
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Sunday8pm
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Re: Tony G response
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November 24, 2005, 11:51:51 AM »
Tony i admire you as a player and a personality, I think a lot of the 'clique' here have gone a bit too far with their comments against you. A 'Disgrace' to the forum you certinly are not.
On the other hand, what you did is maybe a bit carried away. Like i said im a big fan of yours, the first internet poker name i used 4 years ago was 'TonyG'!! But please dont get caught up in this...calling camel a wanker isnt going to get you far is it?
Everyone should chill the !£%* out and stop making a mountain out of a molehole. Rubdowns happen in EVERY sport. Arsene Wenger and Alex Ferguson are just the same. ITS THEIR TACTICS. Its EXACTLY the same principle in Poker. Trying to get that edge on your opponents.
Tony you have acted irrisponsibly but i feel the top dogs gere just havent been fair to you. Thats my opinion.
Ben
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Re: Tony G response
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November 24, 2005, 11:54:14 AM »
Andy Wards blog -
Friday, November 18, 2005 - Come To The Dark Side
In it he asks for someone to step up and become a villian of poker! I guess you read it eh tony?
Say what you want at the table and gl in the future. The only people who should have a problem are the ones you say it to.
Doesn't it bother you that they might be gunning for you at the table in the future? I guess not as thats the point of doing it
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Trace
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Re: Tony G response
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November 24, 2005, 11:55:47 AM »
Quote from: plplaya on November 24, 2005, 11:48:08 AM
Quote from: TraceT on November 24, 2005, 11:34:16 AM
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Camel had some nice things to say about me as well, I can not wait
till I get the camel on my table hope you can scrape the buy in together.
And hey why are you not in Moncao wa***** like you can only sit at home
and abuse people like me. You know me better then to take a cheap shot
at me Camel.
Totally uncalled for!
It's one of those things, camel was far out of line first.
Sorry? I don't remember Camel calling Tony disgusting names.
I'm not going to get into a slanging match with anyone, but at the end of the day, I was embarrassed that Tony acted the way he did and that people reading the forum associated him with Blonde.
I love this site and I'd hate for it to be clouded in that way!
I
may
be a nice person away from work, but anything I do in work reflects on the company I work for, so if I abused a customer it would give this place a bad name, something I would be disciplined for. OK, so Tony didn't abuse a 'customer', but he was abusive at a table and he is associated with Blonde - that in my book makes us look bad!
Rant over! Going to health food shop for KALMS!
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Re: Tony G response
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November 24, 2005, 12:00:29 PM »
Trace i dont think the people who called Tony a 'disgrace' etc etc acted very appropriately either.
In my opinion its six one half a dozen of the other. Yes Tony is out of order for calling camel a wanker and maybe so for his rubdowns. But everyone in the poker world this is how Tony plays, this is his game. It has been for 10+ years.
Tony has been a valuable member of the forum and any matters regarding his behaviour shoul have been dealt with 'off forum'. It doesnt make Tony look good in front of all our new forum members. It has all been blown way way out of proportion and i think the matter shouldnt even need re-adressing.
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November 24, 2005, 12:01:25 PM »
Quote from: TraceT on November 24, 2005, 11:55:47 AM
Quote from: plplaya on November 24, 2005, 11:48:08 AM
Quote from: TraceT on November 24, 2005, 11:34:16 AM
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Camel had some nice things to say about me as well, I can not wait
till I get the camel on my table hope you can scrape the buy in together.
And hey why are you not in Moncao wa***** like you can only sit at home
and abuse people like me. You know me better then to take a cheap shot
at me Camel.
Totally uncalled for!
It's one of those things, camel was far out of line first.
Sorry? I don't remember Camel calling Tony disgusting names.
I'm not going to get into a slanging match with anyone, but at the end of the day, I was embarrassed that Tony acted the way he did and that people reading the forum associated him with Blonde.
I love this site and I'd hate for it to be clouded in that way!
I
may
be a nice person away from work, but anything I do in work reflects on the company I work for, so if I abused a customer it would give this place a bad name, something I would be disciplined for. OK, so Tony didn't abuse a 'customer', but he was abusive at a table and he is associated with Blonde - that in my book makes us look bad!
Rant over! Going to health food shop for KALMS!
I am inclined to agree with your logic, but I'm not sure he abused anyone. All we have heard is hearsay.
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November 24, 2005, 12:04:11 PM »
God I could be at this all day - my (hopefully) last comment.
Dave Colclough was embarrassed by this, I'm sure he isn't one to make things up - he was there, he saw, he heard!
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November 24, 2005, 12:04:40 PM »
Quote from: plplaya on November 24, 2005, 12:01:25 PM
I am inclined to agree with your logic, but I'm not sure he abused anyone. All we have heard is hearsay.
EH ??
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November 24, 2005, 12:07:35 PM »
Quote from: TraceT on November 24, 2005, 12:04:11 PM
God I could be at this all day - my (hopefully) last comment.
Dave Colclough was embarrassed by this, I'm sure he isn't one to make things up - he was there, he saw, he heard!
embarassed by what? Dave of all people should know the attitude Tony has at the poker table, in fact, i kinda like the way Tony plays! At the end of the day im only lawyering for Tony, Im not condoning his behavior just ifeel everyone seems to be taking sides and that simply isnt fair
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