pokerstars balancing

[Ironside]

tikay i have never said that the unfairness of the balancing was a conspiracy therory or that any malace was meant by it

but last night in a 900+ player tourny with 20 tables left 3 of the top 4 stacks were all on the same table

with 3 tables left there were 2 tables with average stack of about 55k other table had average of about 25k

in the omaha hi lo tourny i played in the early hours of the morning it was the same

infact every time i get deep into astars event its the same

small stacks left to pass chips and ladder climb while the big stacks have to battle

[Bongo]

And abandoning the chip race in Live Poker? Well that's easy enough, but as long as some folks absolutely INSIST on laboriously counting out & using the lowest denom chips so long as they are on the table, then the Casinos really do need to get the low-denom chips off, otherwise it takes forever to check & count every bet & pot.

I understand why this is needed in live poker, but given that the same can't happen online it would seem that they aren't needed. In this case should we have them?

Should online poker try to mimic offline poker when it is possible to do things differently but better?

[tikay]

So no chance it could be, err......coincidence??!!

That's what "random" does, it produces weird coincidences. But they happen in real life, too.

I was playing a guy online today in a heads-Up match, & I was in a hopeless hole, all in with Q6 off v his AQ suited. I four flushed it with my 6 & the geezer went loopy, "b*** ****, this site is ****" etc. He never stopped moaning about it. Then I trapped him a treat with AK v his A-2, & the flop came J-2-2.........

In the first instance, the site was fixed. In the second - well, he went very quiet......!

Bongo. I agree, they (chip races) ain't needed online, but I seem to recall that someone said they were.

Owner - be careful here. When taking a SINGLE player off a table, it MUST NOT be random, it must be to a pre-agreed method. When breaking a complete table, yes, it MUST be random. But when, as often happens, all the big stacks end up on the same table, I am afraid that the same old accusations are gonna be trotted out.

[jbsc7769]

I didnt say it was on the PokerStars web site Ironside!!

As Tikay said, the sites have NOTHING to gain by putting big stacks together in a tourney, not a single thing. You say it happens a lot, well, I lose with AA a lot. At least I think I do. Statistically I actually win about 85% of the time with AA but, I remember the times I dont. Hell, one was J3o. Im not sure I could tell you what I beat with my AA though.........

[Ironside]

if its not on the website where did you get your info from

otherwise i would think they use the same balancing that ladbrookes have openly admited too

[Karabiner]

Tikay you need to calm down mate !

It is common knowledge to anyone who plays tournaments on Ladbrokes,

that most of the large stacks end up on the same table when it gets down to the last few tables.

It is a glitch that I would like explained.

I play 40/50 hors a week online so if I thought it was crooked I would vote with my feet

and give it a miss like I do Nottingham Gala.

Now if you want to talk about crooked let's start a thread about that !

 

[tikay]

Well write & ask them Karabiner! It's not rocket science......

I don't know anyone in Ladbrokes, or else I'd ask them for you. And I don't play on Ladbrokes.

[Karabiner]

All I said was that it is a mystery to me, in response to what you at first felt was an interesting post by Ironside.

One of the posters said that Ladbrokes felt that it was the fairest way.

All of a sudden we are all conspiricy theorists !

Isn't the point of forums like this to discuss these issues ?

[tikay]

Ah, sorry Ralph. I made the mistake of saying something controversial. Now, who was it that said such utterances are never made on blonde.....?

[Ironside]

no tikay what he is trying to say is that you accused us all of being conspircy theroists when its a know fact that atleast 1 site (ladbrookes) moves all the big stacks together and untill i hear from an offical source i think stars have the same policy.

none of us think that the sites are out to get us we just want to now what there policy is and as its not on there website it's open to question

[Karabiner]

As far as I can tell the only thing you said that was contorversial today was about train-spotting !

You seem to have the hump about something, I'm not sure what.

 

[Colchester Kev]

I would like to make an educated well researched comment on this thread, but as i never get deep enough in a bloody tourny to witness anything .... im gonna make like a rock ...and pass !!

[tikay]

Ironside,

You HAVE heard from an official Stars source, today, on blonde, that they do NOT have a policy to move all the big stacks together. Trust me - you HAVE. He ain't allowed to "officially" quote Stars policy, but trust me - he HAS. You know I would not mislead you if it were not so.

Ralph,

What's controversial about train-spotting?

[Colchester Kev]

I will tell you whats controversial about train spotting ..... that bit where he sh*ts the bed, and the fact that they all speak a foreign bloody language    oh you didnt mean the film 

[RED-DOG]

Well write & ask them Karabiner! It's not rocket science......

I don't know anyone in Ladbrokes, or else I'd ask them for you. And I don't play on Ladbrokes.

well I do know someone in Ladbrokes, sort of, but if I do write to them they are very selective about which questions they answer, even if you are persistant

Now I, like you tikay, realise that online poker is a licence to print money and dont believe they would ever be daft enough, or have any reason to do anything bent, it just makes no sense

What I dont understand is, why they dont fall over themselves to reasure worried punters that everything is above board, instead of ignoring emails and page after page of comment/questions on their own forum