how fast should i play bottom two pair?

[paulhouk03]

cash no reads
Hand #10220845585 begins at 2009/01/24
Dealing down cards
Dealt to notorious p [ ]
notorious p posts the small blind of $0.25
overwire posts the big blind of $0.50
jjherrick folds.
s4botage raises to $1.75.
Kirketerp folds.
notorious p calls $1.50.
overwire calls $1.25.
Dealing Flop [ Ah]
notorious p checks.
overwire checks.
s4botage bets $5.
notorious p raises to $14.
overwire folds.
s4botage raises to $46.80, and is all-in.

Should i have slowed down and see a safe turn then shove. Am I good and Would you also stack off?

[Royal Flush]

eh am i missing something?

[Blatch]

hmmmmm snap

[GreekStein]

hmmmmm snap

avec un fistpump

[raab11]

if there is any doubt in your mind about calling here maybe you should take up a new game m8

[paulhouk03]

no i did fist pump call but i was wondering would everyone just jam it in here or would they slow down in anyway pre?
if you were 200 bb deep would u still jam it in?

[bolt pp]

cash no reads
Hand #10220845585 begins at 2009/01/24
Dealing down cards
Dealt to notorious p [ ]
notorious p posts the small blind of $0.25
overwire posts the big blind of $0.50
jjherrick folds.
s4botage raises to $1.75.
Kirketerp folds.
notorious p calls $1.50.
overwire calls $1.25.
Dealing Flop [ Ah]
notorious p checks.
overwire checks.
s4botage bets $5.
notorious p raises to $14.
overwire folds.
s4botage raises to $46.80, and is all-in.

Should i have slowed down and see a safe turn then shove. Am I good and Would you also stack off?

should i have slowed down and see a safe turn then shove



what safe turn do you want to see that helps here, he has you crushed or you have him crushed, there are no draws so whats the turn got to do with anything??

are you saying you're folding if a K drops?........ im wondering what you think the safe/scare cards are?

The hand itself is about as standard as it gets but your thinking about the turn, IE, slowing down, scare cards, etc, baffles me, you're playing at no sort of level and the baord is about as scary as a titus bramble sliding tackle.

[mondatoo]

I will be shocked if he didn't have a better 2pr/set

I'm pretty sure you know this is a snap

Also fold pre

[bolt pp]

I will be shocked if he didn't have a better 2pr/set

yeah because he's posted the HH but otherwise i wouldnt be.

[mondatoo]

I will be shocked if he didn't have a better 2pr/set

yeah because he's posted the HH but otherwise i wouldnt be.

Obv 

[paulhouk03]

I will be shocked if he didn't have a better 2pr/set

yeah because he's posted the HH but otherwise i wouldnt be.

Obv 

he had ak and he got there on the turn ace came out.

[paulhouk03]

cash no reads
Hand #10220845585 begins at 2009/01/24
Dealing down cards
Dealt to notorious p [ ]
notorious p posts the small blind of $0.25
overwire posts the big blind of $0.50
jjherrick folds.
s4botage raises to $1.75.
Kirketerp folds.
notorious p calls $1.50.
overwire calls $1.25.
Dealing Flop [ Ah]
notorious p checks.
overwire checks.
s4botage bets $5.
notorious p raises to $14.
overwire folds.
s4botage raises to $46.80, and is all-in.

Should i have slowed down and see a safe turn then shove. Am I good and Would you also stack off?

should i have slowed down and see a safe turn then shove



what safe turn do you want to see that helps here, he has you crushed or you have him crushed, there are no draws so whats the turn got to do with anything??

are you saying you're folding if a K drops?........ im wondering what you think the safe/scare cards are?

The hand itself is about as standard as it gets but your thinking about the turn, IE, slowing down, scare cards, etc, baffles me, you're playing at no sort of level and the baord is about as scary as a titus bramble sliding tackle.

i could slow down if a k or q comes out if an ace comes out i can make an easy fold then.

[bolt pp]

cash no reads
Hand #10220845585 begins at 2009/01/24
Dealing down cards
Dealt to notorious p [ ]
notorious p posts the small blind of $0.25
overwire posts the big blind of $0.50
jjherrick folds.
s4botage raises to $1.75.
Kirketerp folds.
notorious p calls $1.50.
overwire calls $1.25.
Dealing Flop [ Ah]
notorious p checks.
overwire checks.
s4botage bets $5.
notorious p raises to $14.
overwire folds.
s4botage raises to $46.80, and is all-in.

Should i have slowed down and see a safe turn then shove. Am I good and Would you also stack off?

should i have slowed down and see a safe turn then shove



what safe turn do you want to see that helps here, he has you crushed or you have him crushed, there are no draws so whats the turn got to do with anything??

are you saying you're folding if a K drops?........ im wondering what you think the safe/scare cards are?

The hand itself is about as standard as it gets but your thinking about the turn, IE, slowing down, scare cards, etc, baffles me, you're playing at no sort of level and the baord is about as scary as a titus bramble sliding tackle.

i could slow down if a k or q comes out if an ace comes out i can make an easy fold then.

how can you "slow down" here? even if you flat the flop the pot is now 1/3 of your stack.

do you think your oppo is gonna just stop betting the next two streets?

[MC]

You have to raise your hand on the flop because your hand is vulnerable, as bottom 2 always is...

You have to raise a reasonable amount (ie. min raise I dislike) so your raise is okay.

You have to call when he shoves, you are beating AK, AQ, AJ, AT, A8, even the lower rags. Possibly a funky 8T. Okay occasionally he wakes up with A9 or a set, but certainly not often enough to ever consider not stacking off here...

[AlexMartin]

no i did fist pump call but i was wondering would everyone just jam it in here or would they slow down in anyway pre?
if you were 200 bb deep would u still jam it in?

cant answer that as HH doesnt show. would be interesting though if villain 3b shoved 200bb deep. id probably call.