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« on: January 26, 2009, 08:06:36 PM »

Ok so just spunked like 4 bi's in 2hrs and just thought i'd put a couple hands up for some responses.

Hand 1

I've played with opp a bit he seems pretty competent not great,my image to him is pretty much tag

***** Hand History for Game 473050857 *****
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 26, 06:51:58 ET 2009
Table Neon 109 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: sPeEdBrEaKr ( $45.97 USD )
Seat 2: CeeJayPee ( $119.13 USD )
Seat 3: mondo07 ( $60.85 USD )
Seat 4: prainiac1 ( $49.60 USD )
Seat 5: lillol ( $23.98 USD )
Seat 6: Serene Wolf ( $51.24 USD )
CeeJayPee posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
mondo07 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mondo07 [  Ah ]
prainiac1 folds
lillol folds
Serene Wolf raises [$1.75 USD]
sPeEdBrEaKr calls [$1.75 USD]
CeeJayPee folds
mondo07 raises [$6.75 USD]
Serene Wolf calls [$5.50 USD]
sPeEdBrEaKr calls [$5.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , two spades ]
mondo07 checks
Serene Wolf bets [$12.00 USD]
sPeEdBrEaKr folds
mondo07 raises [$53.60 USD]
Serene Wolf calls [$31.99 USD]
mondo07 wins $9.61 USD
mondo07 shows [Ah, ]
Serene Wolf shows [, ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Serene Wolf wins $106.98 USD from main pot

Hand 2

I think is pretty standard more interested in fact that he only has half a stack

***** Hand History for Game 473038228 *****
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 26, 06:30:46 ET 2009
Table Neon 16 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Serene Wolf ( $31.05 USD )
Seat 2: mondo07 ( $49.25 USD )
Seat 3: DNoizer1337 ( $50.60 USD )
Seat 4: mrduttwin ( $20.80 USD )
Seat 5: Tooshbag ( $37.30 USD )
Seat 6: 559259195 ( $61.86 USD )
DNoizer1337 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
mrduttwin posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mondo07 [  ]
Tooshbag folds
559259195 calls [$0.50 USD]
Serene Wolf folds
mondo07 raises [$2.60 USD]
DNoizer1337 folds
mrduttwin calls [$2.10 USD]
559259195 calls [$2.10 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , three diamonds, ]
mrduttwin bets [$3.20 USD]
559259195 folds
mondo07 raises [$17.65 USD]
mrduttwin calls [$14.45 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
mrduttwin bets [$0.55 USD]
mondo07 calls [$0.55 USD]
mondo07 shows [, ]
mrduttwin shows [, ]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
mrduttwin wins $42.25 USD from main pot

Other hands where just a standard QQ into AA rr shove which i called and donk plays from myself with AK and top pair sigh.

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 08:11:30 PM »

2nd hand looks standard...

You should let 1st hand go most of the time; J is a plausible card to hit, he's bet into 2 players, plus the flush draw there....
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 11:30:48 PM »

they both look fine. hand 1 u might just fold to his donk purely because a lot of flushdraws are calling. wp, variance will come through.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 11:33:57 PM »

they both look fine. hand 1 u might just fold to his donk purely because a lot of flushdraws are calling. wp, variance will come through.

its not a donk
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 01:16:45 AM »

hand 1 is really really terrible

hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling.



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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 03:09:39 AM »

hand 1 is really really terrible

hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling.





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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 03:12:36 AM »

hand 1 is really really terrible

hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling.





lol

why lol
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2009, 03:20:51 AM »

hand 1 is really really terrible

hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling.





lol

why lol

it can never be that bad. opponent is competent, should recognise that our range here is generally tight. His donking range wont ever be that strong. add to that the fact its 3way to the flop makes our shove look even stronger.  finally the fact we always have some equity and its ok imo, deffo some of the time when playing regulars imo.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2009, 03:28:08 AM »

hand 1 is really really terrible

hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling.





lol

why lol

it can never be that bad. opponent is competent, should recognise that our range here is generally tight. His donking range wont ever be that strong. add to that the fact its 3way to the flop makes our shove look even stronger.  finally the fact we always have some equity and its ok imo, deffo some of the time when playing regulars imo.

1) it isn't a donk bet.
2) hes bet into a field of players when the pre flop r/r has checked.
3) LOL

take a look in your pokertracker, everyone take a look in their pokertracker, take a look @ how often you r/r pre and then c/r flops, and then take a look at how often you have a made hand vs a draw.  This is without doubt the most unbalanced spot in SSNL.  People dont bet here unless they are stacking off, so your c/r here, is, without doubt, terrible. I know its cool to spew 2p2 axioms and to use "range" 10 times in a single post, but you cant be using ranges when you play your hand in a way that will never rep a good range.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2009, 03:36:52 AM »

hand 1 is really really terrible

hand 2 is ok, I think id prolly just call the flop though, his lead into the field means if you hit your hand you are gonna get paid close to 100% of the time, which consequently means he almost never folds to your riase, so you are kinda shifting the odds into your favour by just calling.





lol

why lol

it can never be that bad. opponent is competent, should recognise that our range here is generally tight. His donking range wont ever be that strong. add to that the fact its 3way to the flop makes our shove look even stronger.  finally the fact we always have some equity and its ok imo, deffo some of the time when playing regulars imo.

1) it isn't a donk bet.
2) hes bet into a field of players when the pre flop r/r has checked.
3) LOL

take a look in your pokertracker, everyone take a look in their pokertracker, take a look @ how often you r/r pre and then c/r flops, and then take a look at how often you have a made hand vs a draw.  This is without doubt the most unbalanced spot in SSNL.  People dont bet here unless they are stacking off, so your c/r here, is, without doubt, terrible. I know its cool to spew 2p2 axioms and to use "range" 10 times in a single post, but you cant be using ranges when you play your hand in a way that will never rep a good range.

doh, my bad, didnt see it was a cr, thought villain donked and mondo shoved. scratch what i said. spew mondo m8 Sad
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2009, 04:12:40 AM »

Really dont like hand one.  At this standard most are pretty ABC and would you seriously check on a board like this, against two players, with a made hand? 

Without stats or reads on either of you my guess here would be that top pair would be good in most situations.

Hand 2 just standard.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 10:59:54 PM »

Hand 1 already been talked about, but not sure I would play hand 2 like you did given you up against a shorty, if he hit any part of this flop which it looks like he has given the lead, then he is not folding to your raise.. if he was deeper stacked then I would like a raise but would be looking to get it in with some kind of made hand against the short stack... Interested to know others thoughts on this tho?
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 10:37:14 PM »

hand 1 raise to $8 pre, fold to his bet. hand 2 fold preflop.
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