What Would You Do?

[Autobetkev]

200 runner comp. 128 left. Cash to 25. My stack is 38k. Just been moved tables so no info on Villain who has a stack of 26k. Average is 17k (ish).
Blinds 400/800/50. Villain raises to 2.2k from 3rd to act. I flat call in the cutoff with . Everyone else fold.
Flop  . Villain bets 4k. I flat call. Turn  . Villain moves in..... 2 questions, would you have raised the flop and what shall I do now?

[GreekStein]

3-bet pre?

[ItsMrAlex2u]

You called pre to catch a flop, you caught about as good as you can expect, you have to call, if he has AQ then ul.

[ItsMrAlex2u]

and yes, i would have raised the flop

[MANTIS01]

The pre-flop call is marginal imo, and because of that you must get paid when you nail a flop. So why would you raise the flop? You should only do that if you're pretty certain villain's got an A he wont lay down. And you don't know that. If you raise and Villain doesn't have an A he will insta fold and you will win his 1 bet. Big deal. Bad pre-flop call + bad raise is playing bad imo. So just call on the flop and get what happened to happen, namely villain pushing his chips into you. By calling the flop you widen the range villain will get his chips in with and that must be your ultimate goal after this flop. Sometimes you will run into a better hand, so what, raising the flop gets you business from these hands for sure, but it doesn't get you business from many worse hands. Kev, your call on the flop is good imo. But that good call gets ruined if when villain pushes you don't already have your chips in the middle.

[MC]

The pre-flop call is marginal imo, and because of that you must get paid when you nail a flop. So why would you raise the flop? You should only do that if you're pretty certain villain's got an A he wont lay down. And you don't know that. If you raise and Villain doesn't have an A he will insta fold and you will win his 1 bet. Big deal. Bad pre-flop call + bad raise is playing bad imo. So just call on the flop and get what happened to happen, namely villain pushing his chips into you. By calling the flop you widen the range villain will get his chips in with and that must be your ultimate goal after this flop. Sometimes you will run into a better hand, so what, raising the flop gets you business from these hands for sure, but it doesn't get you business from many worse hands. Kev, your call on the flop is good imo. But that good call gets ruined if when villain pushes you don't already have your chips in the middle.

^v.good analysis

I'd raise the flop if it wasn't a heads-up pot...

But yes, snap call please!

[Royal Flush]

fold/3b pre, i think fold is best.
Flat flop.
Snap turn with 1 hand in the air.

[AlexMartin]

call pre, flat flop, fold turn.

[MKKfish]

fold/3b pre, i think fold is best.
Flat flop.
Snap turn with 1 hand in the air.

Wow James..just wow.

Jeez I know when calling preflop we wudda just loved the 2 pair but the A on the flop just gives a horrible horrible texture. Even if villain has AK, (which is about all we can beat) they're probably feckin spades! I can't see two biggish stacks going to war with a raggy Ace here. TBH I'm not sure I would even have called the 4k flop bet.

But I do have 'fish' in my name so maybes that says it all.

[bolt pp]

call pre
flat fop
call turn

[Ironside]

fold/3b pre, i think fold is best.
Flat flop.
Snap turn with 1 hand in the air.

Wow James..just wow.

Jeez I know when calling preflop we wudda just loved the 2 pair but the A on the flop just gives a horrible horrible texture. Even if villain has AK, (which is about all we can beat) they're probably feckin spades! I can't see two biggish stacks going to war with a raggy Ace here. TBH I'm not sure I would even have called the 4k flop bet.

But I do have 'fish' in my name so maybes that says it all.

dont talk rubbish you would of bluff called

[MKKfish]

fold/3b pre, i think fold is best.
Flat flop.
Snap turn with 1 hand in the air.

Wow James..just wow.

Jeez I know when calling preflop we wudda just loved the 2 pair but the A on the flop just gives a horrible horrible texture. Even if villain has AK, (which is about all we can beat) they're probably feckin spades! I can't see two biggish stacks going to war with a raggy Ace here. TBH I'm not sure I would even have called the 4k flop bet.

But I do have 'fish' in my name so maybes that says it all.

dont talk rubbish you would of bluff called

Actually it's quite ironic, (boom tish), that it is QJ as that's the hand I shoved for 20k over your 3k raise. Only you could then call with 99!!!

Q on the turn ftw and an unhappy Iron.

[George2Loose]

call pre, flat flop, fold turn.

[Blatch]

As I said at the time, I think the key is what exactly are you beating bar AK?

Maybe im saying that cos I had been playing with the tight arse for 4 hours or so

[TheChipPrince]

'AutobetKev' - Sounds like the Colchester one has another account!!!