Non Poker - here's a debate that will upset the girlies......

[tikay]

Ok, after a difficult Thursday for blonde as a whole, it seems, as always appears to be the case, that "the day after" is much better.

Anyway, here's my closing post for the day.

In Monte Carlo, as anywhere I suppose, it's nice, when we've ben non-stop Updating for several days, to talk about something other than poker now & then. But we went to the nightly free buffet, & Jen & I managed  get sandwiched, nightly, betwen crushing bores, who seemed unable to discuss ANY subject except "so, the flop comes JJ3, & Muppet bets...". I'd try my diversionary tactics. "You got family?". Drone drone, flop story, flop story. "Wherebouts in America you originate from?" Flop story, flop story, drone drone. "How many kids you got?" Flop story..........

OK, it is what it is. The 4 day event finishes, a huge sense of relief washes over Jen & me. There are celebratory parties left right & centre, with Paul Jackson, Marc Goodwin, the Bad Beat Boys, Chris Smith, the zillionaire who owns Bad Beat, Matt Savages crew, all inviting us out to parties. But we are wrecked. We wanna cuppa tea, & put out feet up, & get away from poker & poker peeps for an hour or two.

Wandering through the luxurious Hermitage Hotel, where Jen was staying, thanks to Matt Savage & co, (I had to slum it on a yacht....) we bump into a homely bunch in one of the lounges, several pots of tea are ordered, the shoes come off, & we chat away for hours.

There was Jen, myself, and a guy called Jatinder Singh, who'd done very well indeed in the event. His online name is AceJ, & I gather he's quite an online celeb, hails from Manchester. VERY sharp, educated, great guy. And there was Granite John's missus, a terrific lady, who looks about half her real age. (Granite John, he from Gutshot). And there was a lady who'd come all the way from New York to sweat her niece, who was Rammid, who's finalled in the Consolation Event. It was SUCH a relief to be able to talk non-poker for a few hours, I really enjoyed the time we had chatting.

Inevitably - heaven knows how - the subject of well, toilet seats came up. Toilet seats? Yeay, you heard right. Toilet seats. How THAT arose is another story altogether, you'll have to wait till tomorrow for that one, but trust me, it will be worth the wait.

The thing is, I've always wondered why girlies get SO upset about toilet seats being left up. What's the problem?

And so the question arose, "what's the big deal about leaving toilet seats up?".

And these three Ladies, perfectly calm, intelligent & rational until then, went BALLISTIC. They were incandesent with rage!

I look at it this way. Bloke leaves the toilet seat up. Girlie arrives, puts the seat down. That's ONE movement. Not hard. Takes half a second. Girlie leaves it down. Bloke arives. Puts it up. That's one movement. Takes about half a second. No problem then?

You're having a laugh. Those ladies went APESHIT. You HAVE to leave the seat DOWN. It's a HANGING OFFENCE not to.

Can anyone explain to me why women are SO irrational & daft about this perfectly logical matter? Men leave it up, women leave it down. What's the problem?

[thetank]

Woman should be grateful that men lift the seat in the first place before we take a wizz.

It's not as if a lady is not going to wash her hands anyway after a visit, there should be no problem in putting the seat down themselves.

[Phil]

I ALWAYS leave the seat down for my girlfriend. But no she just complains that there's wee all over the seat, so you just can't win whatever you do. Women will always find a way to moan.

[ariston]

Can anyone explain to me why women are SO irrational & daft about this perfectly logical matter? Men leave it up, women leave it down.

Question and answer in the same sentence....because they are irrational and daft!

[madasahatstand]

there are germs on the toilet seat therefore one would have to wash ones hands before peeing commenced and then again after so Tikkay. 1. movement putting seat down 2. turn tap on 3. get soap 4 lather 5. rinse 6 turn tap back off 7. dry...........alll that before taking a pee is a pain..................

[AndrewT]

I think it's mostly because, sadly, some men are 'sprayers', who don't lift the seat up before covering everything within four feet of them.

I don't have this problem - as Elvis Costello sang, 'My Aim Is True'.

[LukieD]

there are germs on the toilet seat therefore one would have to wash ones hands before peeing commenced and then again after so Tikkay. 1. movement putting seat down 2. turn tap on 3. get soap 4 lather 5. rinse 6 turn tap back off 7. dry...........alll that before taking a pee is a pain..................

But it's exactly the same for men! We are no more immune to germs than you are!!   

[madasahatstand]

so luke, you actually do all that before peeing?

[Dingdell]

ok ok - as far as I am awareI am the only colonic irrigationist on the site -  and as such this gives me specialist status in this debate as my world revolves around toilets.   I clean the loo at least twice for every patient I see - yummy - I love my job (no pun intended) and I'm in charge of infection control at the clinic which is v v v important when it comes to toilets.

Anyway - you should put the  loo seat down for the following reasons:

1.  Girls like it if you do
2. Girls like it if you do
3. Girls like it if you do

All other reasons are irrelevant

[tikay]

But Mad,

I am not arguing with your hygiene argument, it's valid, but my point is, which never, in th history of he Universe, has any Girlie agreed with, is that ITS THE SAME EITHER WAY. No?

Dingdell has it spot on, methinks......

[LukieD]

Exactly..it's the same for both so men should leave it up and women down and everyone has to deal with it!

[madasahatstand]

are there no gentlemen left in this world? call me old fashioned but i like men opeing the doors, carrying my bags and putting down the lav seat

[tikay]

Thats a DIFFERENT point Mad. I do the opening doors, after you, men walk nearest the kerb, I insist on paying. quite right too. And if I had a partrner, I'd put the Lav seat down.

But my question is relevant to the seat, ........WHY?

[snoopy1239]

there are germs on the toilet seat therefore one would have to wash ones hands before peeing commenced and then again after so Tikkay. 1. movement putting seat down 2. turn tap on 3. get soap 4 lather 5. rinse 6 turn tap back off 7. dry...........alll that before taking a pee is a pain..................

aaaaah... so does that mean women should put the seat back up for us lads when we go to the loo?

[tikay]

Exactly!