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« on: February 17, 2009, 02:44:27 PM »

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/02/08/robertson.saudi.child.bride.cnn

I just don't see how this can be justified on any level.

But it's not surprising when the prophet who founded the religion (upon which the laws remain that allow this to happen) married his child bride when she was 6-years-old and consummated his marriage with her when she was 9. He was then, 54 years old.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 03:00:59 PM »

Video blocked at work, so don't know what that story is about but this one made me laugh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7894721.stm

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The founder of a US Muslim TV network has been charged over the beheading of his wife, media reports say.

Muzzammil Hassan, 44, is accused of second degree murder of Aasiya Hassan, whose body was found last week at the TV station in New York state.

Both Mr Hassan and his wife worked at Bridges TV, a station aimed at countering stereotypes of Muslims.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 03:02:30 PM »

Oh goodie. Looking forward to this thread 
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 03:16:44 PM »

Video blocked at work, so don't know what that story is about but this one made me laugh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7894721.stm

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The founder of a US Muslim TV network has been charged over the beheading of his wife, media reports say.

Muzzammil Hassan, 44, is accused of second degree murder of Aasiya Hassan, whose body was found last week at the TV station in New York state.

Both Mr Hassan and his wife worked at Bridges TV, a station aimed at countering stereotypes of Muslims.

It's about an 8-year old girl in Saudi Arabia being given in lieu of a debt her father had to a 47-year old man so she can be his wife.   The judge didn't annul the marriage, but made the man promise he wouldn't have sex with her until she started puberty...
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2009, 09:24:10 PM »

Video blocked at work, so don't know what that story is about but this one made me laugh.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7894721.stm

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The founder of a US Muslim TV network has been charged over the beheading of his wife, media reports say.

Muzzammil Hassan, 44, is accused of second degree murder of Aasiya Hassan, whose body was found last week at the TV station in New York state.

Both Mr Hassan and his wife worked at Bridges TV, a station aimed at countering stereotypes of Muslims.

It's about an 8-year old girl in Saudi Arabia being given in lieu of a debt her father had to a 47-year old man so she can be his wife.   The judge didn't annul the marriage, but made the man promise he wouldn't have sex with her until she started puberty...

What not being able to have sex with your wife, surely thats against his human rights?
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 09:35:25 AM »

More wrongness:

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentID=2009020828735
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 09:46:06 AM »

Sad buy unfortunately not surprising.

I read somewhere yesterday that a guy cornered a heroin dealer ( who had been selling to one of his family ) in his flat and flushed all his produce down the toilet but was arrested himself and convicted of breach of the peace ffs!
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 01:53:35 PM »

I'm not going to get into an argument about this, but taking a couple of stories on their own is misleading.

I'm sure if a Saudi Arabian muslim picked up a British newspaper he could find a story appaulling (at the very least he would deeply offended by Page 3 of the Sun).

It's a different culture and different rules apply.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 01:54:23 PM »

I'm not going to get into an argument about this, but taking a couple of stories on their own is misleading.

I'm sure if a Saudi Arabian muslim picked up a British newspaper he could find a story appaulling (at the very least he would deeply offended by Page 3 of the Sun).

It's a different culture and different rules apply.

Do you want more stories?  You think that these stories are comparable to upsetting someone's sensibilities at seeing some human flesh in a newspaper?

Different cultures are fine, and something that should be applauded and enjoyed.  But the removal of human rights for women isn't a 'cultural' issue.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 01:58:35 PM »

I'm not going to get into an argument about this, but taking a couple of stories on their own is misleading.

I'm sure if a Saudi Arabian muslim picked up a British newspaper he could find a story appaulling (at the very least he would deeply offended by Page 3 of the Sun).

It's a different culture and different rules apply.

Do you want more stories?  You think that these stories are comparable to upsetting someone's sensibilities at seeing some human flesh in a newspaper?

Different cultures are fine, and something that should be applauded and enjoyed.  But the removal of human rights for women isn't a 'cultural' issue.

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 01:59:00 PM »

I'm not going to get into an argument about this, but taking a couple of stories on their own is misleading.

I'm sure if a Saudi Arabian muslim picked up a British newspaper he could find a story appaulling (at the very least he would deeply offended by Page 3 of the Sun).

It's a different culture and different rules apply.

Do you want more stories?  You think that these stories are comparable to upsetting someone's sensibilities at seeing some human flesh in a newspaper?

Different cultures are fine, and something that should be applauded and enjoyed.  But the removal of human rights for women isn't a 'cultural' issue.

How about the exploitation of women in pornography?

Eastern European women being forced to work in brothels?



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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2009, 02:00:28 PM »

I'm sure if a Saudi Arabian muslim picked up a British newspaper he could find a story appaulling (at the very least he would deeply offended by Page 3 of the Sun).

"Nikki from Gravesend (21) wishes her Muslim fans well and hopes they don't Mecca big fuss about Page 3"
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2009, 02:03:08 PM »

lol nice one Andrew, the mecca pun works better if she is from newcastle though.
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2009, 02:14:16 PM »

There are exploitation, injustice and violations of 'human rights' occur in every society. These should for the most part be dealt with by the members of that society. Very occasionally pressures from outside that society are appropriate and useful, more usually such pressures are counterproductive.

Taking an example in isolation and drawing attention to it merely reinforces peoples prejudices, and is not useful.
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 02:17:39 PM »

I'm sure if a Saudi Arabian muslim picked up a British newspaper he could find a story appaulling (at the very least he would deeply offended by Page 3 of the Sun).

"Nikki from Gravesend (21) wishes her Muslim fans well and hopes they don't Mecca big fuss about Page 3"

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