AK close to bubble

[EvilPie]

6 handed on my table. 11 left and top 9 are paid.

Blinds 800/1600 + 200

I've got about 40k and I'm CL on table

utg sat with about 35k raises to 4k. He's reasonably active so no reason to put him on a monster because he's utg.

I've got AK and have to assume I'm at least ahead. Oppo doesn't often raise to pass unless he's faced with an all in so I'm thinking of extracting value.

I re raise to 10k hoping to induce a shove but happy to see a flop and maybe extract a few extra chips.

Question is should i just jam pre or am I right to try to play the hand and hopefully maximise. Am I deep enough to get creative with AK and possibly be faced with a decision when I don't hit the flop?

edit: I'm on the button btw.

[TheChipPrince]

Do you mention the bubble in the title because it affects your play?  Or because you think it will affect his?

[EvilPie]

Do you mention the bubble in the title because it affects your play?  Or because you think it will affect his?

Good question. Now you mention it I'm not really sure.

I guess it would be more relevant with a weaker holding if I wanted to use my FE right?

tbh I don't think either of us were affected by the bubble. Both there for the win. A couple had already locked up but this guy's always happy to get his stack in if he thinks he's winning or can get you to pass.

[GreekStein]

I wouldn't jam here as he never calls with worse than AK and you still have too many bigs.

Raise is fine, I may make it a touch more than you did though.

[MC]

Interesting one.

A jam and he folds everything but QQ+ you would imagine.

So the only probs with a jam is you're only getting called by a hand that beats you, and it's quite high risk for an 8k pot.

But he's obviously calling with a lot more hands if you only raise, and I assume you fold if he jams?. So this could get you in trouble.

Still, I think a raise in position is the right play. Maybe make it 11-12k though.

[TheChipPrince]

So the only probs with a jam is you're only getting called by a hand that beats you, and it's quite high risk for an 8k pot.

I disagree with that MC, I dont think its that high risk at all. how often does he have QQ+ here, at a 6-handed table if he's been previously active?  And the 8k adds 20% to your stack.  He folds 90%-95% of the time here.

Not saying the shove is the optimal move, but its certainly a profitable move.

[kukushkin88]

Raising to fold here has to be a mistake, especially with the bubble dynamic meaning he might jam fairly wide. Raising is fine as long as you're calling a jam imo. I still think jamming pre here is better with a chance to increase your stack by 20%.

[GreekStein]

So the only probs with a jam is you're only getting called by a hand that beats you, and it's quite high risk for an 8k pot.

I disagree with that MC, I dont think its that high risk at all. how often does he have QQ+ here, at a 6-handed table if he's been previously active?  And the 8k adds 20% to your stack.  He folds 90%-95% of the time here.

Not saying the shove is the optimal move, but its certainly a profitable move.

A raise can induce a shove from worse hands though whereas shoving allows him to get away from tricky hands like AQ AJ.

Interesting one.

A jam and he folds everything but QQ+ you would imagine.

So the only probs with a jam is you're only getting called by a hand that beats you, and it's quite high risk for an 8k pot.

But he's obviously calling with a lot more hands if you only raise, and I assume you fold if he jams? So this could get you in trouble.

Still, I think a raise in position is the right play. Maybe make it 11-12k though.

I don't think we should be considering folding here

[MC]

So the only probs with a jam is you're only getting called by a hand that beats you, and it's quite high risk for an 8k pot.

I disagree with that MC, I dont think its that high risk at all. how often does he have QQ+ here, at a 6-handed table if he's been previously active?  And the 8k adds 20% to your stack.  He folds 90%-95% of the time here.

Not saying the shove is the optimal move, but its certainly a profitable move.

Yeah I don't hate a shove. Perhaps high risk wasn't the best way to describe it. It's not high risk in terms of the amount of times he calls. But it is kinda high in terms of what you lose when he has AA or KK (assuming you lose obv). Chip leader to 3 big blinds when we're currently in good stead in the tournament...

[TheChipPrince]

So the only probs with a jam is you're only getting called by a hand that beats you, and it's quite high risk for an 8k pot.

I disagree with that MC, I dont think its that high risk at all. how often does he have QQ+ here, at a 6-handed table if he's been previously active?  And the 8k adds 20% to your stack.  He folds 90%-95% of the time here.

Not saying the shove is the optimal move, but its certainly a profitable move.

A raise can induce a shove from worse hands though whereas shoving allows him to get away from tricky hands like AQ AJ.

My answer is solely discussing the shove, not the optimal move.

[TheChipPrince]

So the only probs with a jam is you're only getting called by a hand that beats you, and it's quite high risk for an 8k pot.

I disagree with that MC, I dont think its that high risk at all. how often does he have QQ+ here, at a 6-handed table if he's been previously active?  And the 8k adds 20% to your stack.  He folds 90%-95% of the time here.

Not saying the shove is the optimal move, but its certainly a profitable move.

Yeah I don't hate a shove. Perhaps high risk wasn't the best way to describe it. It's not high risk in terms of the amount of times he calls. But it is kinda high in terms of what you lose when he has AA or KK (assuming you lose obv). Chip leader to 3 big blinds when we're currently in good stead in the tournament...

imo if you think he has AA/KK here after an opening raise, your playing scared.

[MC]

Raising to fold here has to be a mistake, especially with the bubble dynamic meaning he might jam fairly wide. Raising is fine as long as you're calling a jam imo. I still think jamming pre here is better with a chance to increase your stack by 20%.

Actually what am I thinking, we'd be getting just over 2 to 1 on a call even with this small raise to 10k

Snap any shove and pretend I didn't write that please...

[MC]

imo if you think he has AA/KK here after an opening raise, your playing scared.

I'm not suggesting for a second that this is all I'm putting him on!!!!! That would be insane...

[EvilPie]

So the only probs with a jam is you're only getting called by a hand that beats you, and it's quite high risk for an 8k pot.

I disagree with that MC, I dont think its that high risk at all. how often does he have QQ+ here, at a 6-handed table if he's been previously active?  And the 8k adds 20% to your stack.  He folds 90%-95% of the time here.

Not saying the shove is the optimal move, but its certainly a profitable move.

This was my thinking. Should I just be happy to take the 8k? It not only gives me a nice 48k stack but also gives me a very dominant position on this table as the next stack is down to 31k.

A 17k advantage over the table at this stage would be very useful.

I'm 100% not scared of him having me beat. If he shoves to my raise I snap him off and if I'm losing it's a cooler and no problem whatsoever.

I'm interested that people think I should raise more. I don't want to scare him off and 6k isn't exactly insignificant. It's 20% of his current stack and increases his total investment to 30% of his stack at the start of the hand. Surely much more is going to scare him off? I don't mind giving pot odds to call, that's exactly what I want but I also want him to think he has FE if he shoves.

[gribbo]

I would flat call mate and play a pot in position, how often are you gona get a hand as strong as this with the current set up  (stack sizes, payout structure, position at table). You have all other Ax  and Kx crushed that he could be raising with, aswell as that he is not going to know what you have if you flat, you could also induce a squeeze/bluff from one of the blinds aswell.

I don't mind a re-raise but i think you stand to win a lot more by flat calling.