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Simon Galloway
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Re: Stuck with tens
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March 19, 2009, 11:51:27 AM »
As I made my way through your scene setting, I thought you were going to say that you were gambling that you could induce a squeeze from the blinds and take your shot at a decent stack. Which I'd be ok with if you had any reason to believe you had the right candidates in the blinds to do it, but sadly I agree with the general consensus that this looks like as good a spot to get it in as you might be getting. Expect to get snapped by K8 ldo and lose the race.
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What kind of fuckery is this?
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March 19, 2009, 01:14:17 PM »
I elect to call the min raise and evaluate the flop, unsure what his min raise means, unable to range it and aware that a standard re-raise commits circa half my stack and a push only gets called by hands that are beating me. Albeit if I push I win 4,000 if all fold
The mistake in this hand is the priority and focus you give to the more marginal factors when considering your options pre-flop. These factors tempt you to want to evaluate a flop before committing. But you don't need to evaluate a flop to KNOW with a decent bb there's gonna be a MIN 8k in the pot when you're gonna have 12.5k. You don't need to evaluate a flop to know there are 18 left...7 get paid...and that 8k is gonna be hugely desirable to the hyenas round the table during this itchy-trigger-finger-time. And a flop isn't gonna change the fact you're gonna have last option on those vital $$'s. Position is a disadvantage when pot size is up around stack size of those involved imo.
If you decide to play this hand you decide to commit to this hand cos of the stack sizes vs impending pot size, tournament situation and position...so you jam pre. Priority factors are not complete unknown UTG or indeed your flop evaluation skillz cos then you wont jam. Also pls don't say UTG is unknown and if you push he only calls you with better.
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Re: Stuck with tens
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i dont like the idea of 'evaluating the flop' with TT. you're going to pass on j/q/k high board? just ship it pre and hope he has enough brain cells to pass AJ
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Quote from: dousche on March 19, 2009, 01:24:55 PM
hope he has enough brain cells to pass AJ
You haven't played much at Luton! Home of the impossible call, AJ here would be entirely standard for many. Not because of pot size, odds, payout structure, just because when the called, they'd be absolutely convinced they were currently in front.
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What kind of fuckery is this?
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Expect to get snapped by K8 ldo and lose the race.
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You haven't played much at Luton! Home of the impossible call, AJ here would be entirely standard for many. Not because of pot size, odds, payout structure, just because when the called, they'd be absolutely convinced they were currently in front.
My incredible reading skillz tell me Mr. Galloway is currently running bad at Luton.
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Quote from: MANTIS01 on March 19, 2009, 02:10:15 PM
My incredible reading skillz tell me Mr. Galloway is currently running bad at Luton.
Possibly...
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March 25, 2009, 04:15:59 PM »
Happy to report I went with the "just ship pre" line with tens against Ironside on Sunday when he raised early position (presumably with
)...does what it says on the tin
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Re: Stuck with tens
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Quote from: AlexMartin on March 19, 2009, 01:39:59 AM
Quote from: tikay on March 19, 2009, 01:31:10 AM
I think you out-thought yourself here Rich.
Just get it all-in pre, & mop up the 4k.
If he's trapped you, too bad. I'd rather Pass pre than smooth the Min-Raise here, but all-in Pre fits the bill best.
deffo, i wouldnt mind flatting if sb and bb were short (they wont call wide/might shove also (obv check bb has a minraise in him)/good (and thus more likely to sqz) but here you have to iso because 1010 is sooooooo vulnerable multiway. you augment by 25% without showdown, 1010 should be like the cream of ur 3b shoving range here.
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