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« on: April 06, 2009, 03:29:25 PM »


Starting a new hand (#-2124589205)
Dealer: mir75020 posts Small Blind 20
Dealer: KingZorro posts Big Blind 40
Dealer:
Dealing cards
Dealer:
Your cards
Dealer: aliend29 folds
Dealer: hgetis calls 40
Dealer: L50B58 calls 40
Dealer: Dulwich calls 40
Dealer: jumpinspider folds
Dealer: ford53 folds
Dealer: treflas23 folds
Dealer: (3575) newmanseye1 raises to 200
Dealer: mir75020 folds
Dealer: KingZorro folds
Dealer: (4650) hgetis calls 160
Dealer: L50B58 folds
Dealer: Dulwich folds
Dealer:
Dealing Flop

Dealer: hgetis checks
Dealer: newmanseye1 bets 360
Dealer: hgetis raises to 720
Dealer: newmanseye1 raises to 3,375
Dealer: hgetis calls 2,655
Dealer:
Dealing Turn

Dealer:
Dealing River

Dealer:
hgetis shows One Pair

Dealer:
newmanseye1 shows High Card

Dealer:
hgetis wins with One Pair
7,290
Dealer:
hgetis wins with One Pair
7,290


Now I know I had the worst of it, i went for the resteal shove, But I dont see how he can call here?  Was this just an Emo Greek call for a backdoor flushdraw?

was my line ok given the standard or should i be folding all but premium at this stage?

Opinions pls and dont say fold pre ffs I know, I was stealing thats why i raised and was restealing.
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 03:31:03 PM »

For the 100th time, people don't fold at small stakes. Stop trying to make them.
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 03:44:54 PM »

I just don't understand this. Why this deep are we stealing a limped pot with J5s ? You managed to stack off trying to win 120 chips.

When the steal doesn't get through why follow it up after we completely miss ? (I can see argument for c-betting but your prob best check-folding imo.)

When we get raised on the flop - why jam with Jack high ?

I don't understand......... If you have been making a habit of this I don't blame opponent for calling with K high.

Otherwise, as has been said, why get funky with Jack high at these stakes where people will call off all their chips with K high ?
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 03:54:58 PM »

I just don't understand this. Why this deep are we stealing a limped pot with J5s ? You managed to stack off trying to win 120 chips.

When the steal doesn't get through why follow it up after we completely miss ? (I can see argument for c-betting but your prob best check-folding imo.)   I have a TAG image,  i expect  my chips to do the work here

When we get raised on the flop - why jam with Jack high ? i had been playing super tight, i was expecting to take it down with a jam, given my tight image

I don't understand......... If you have been making a habit of this I don't blame opponent for calling with K high.  see above

Otherwise, as has been said, why get funky with Jack high at these stakes where people will call off all their chips with K high ?

At what stakes exactly?
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 04:09:43 PM »

Just made a reply then read the hand properly and deleted my whole post.

Hmmm. It all went in on the flop. Bit of a donk call by him to be fair.

What are the stakes? How many runners are in the tournament? This can be a factor when deciding whether to bluff.

Maybe the guy's multitabling loads and just likes to get lucky and build a big stack early.

Next time stick it in his eye please. Thankyou.
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2009, 04:13:52 PM »

i had been playing super tight, i was expecting to take it down with a jam, given my tight image

I think this is a flawed play. You need opponent to fold here almost 100% of the time for it to be profitable and that is never going to be the case. I don't know what stakes but I'm assuming guy limping in EP with K7s then calling a raise didn't have any WSOP bracelets.

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 04:15:39 PM »

Fold pre ffs.

Or more likely this guy has played you before and thought yeah, K high is good against this guy 80% of the time.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 04:16:44 PM »

Looks like chip dumping to me, I would report it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 04:51:55 PM »

I'm guessing its like a $50-100 tourney in which case the whole hand completely puzzles me. (I recognise the player 'Dulwich' who is relatively new blonde Ant Gaughan and I know that's the range of tourney he tends to play).

I know you said 'dont say fold pre ffs I know, I was stealing thats why i raised and was restealing' but WTF!?. You want opinions when the only reasonable thing than can be said is FOLD PRE!?

60 chips aren't worth stealing. Just fold these trash hands and you'll never get into this spot.

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 05:04:10 PM »

I'm guessing its like a $50-100 tourney in which case the whole hand completely puzzles me. (I recognise the player 'Dulwich' who is relatively new blonde Ant Gaughan and I know that's the range of tourney he tends to play).

I know you said 'dont say fold pre ffs I know, I was stealing thats why i raised and was restealing' but WTF!?. You want opinions when the only reasonable thing than can be said is FOLD PRE!?

60 chips aren't worth stealing. Just fold these trash hands and you'll never get into this spot.



Sorry I should explain more, The villian in this had been uber active, rereraising people on flops and it was fairly obvious he was outplaying the tighter people on the table, he was defending any blind of his that was raised and he loved to 4 - 5 bet people off pots, hence I was expecting to get in to a pot allow a pot to build and take his decision away from him forcing the fold, me representing the overpair and taking advantage of my image.  It was all going to plan untill the call.

thats the part i am puzzled by
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 05:11:02 PM »

He's obviously called you cos he's a complete donkey, for no other reason.

But....

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I just don't understand this. Why this deep are we stealing a limped pot with J5s ? You managed to stack off trying to win 120 chips.

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2009, 05:15:57 PM »

I'm guessing its like a $50-100 tourney in which case the whole hand completely puzzles me. (I recognise the player 'Dulwich' who is relatively new blonde Ant Gaughan and I know that's the range of tourney he tends to play).

I know you said 'dont say fold pre ffs I know, I was stealing thats why i raised and was restealing' but WTF!?. You want opinions when the only reasonable thing than can be said is FOLD PRE!?

60 chips aren't worth stealing. Just fold these trash hands and you'll never get into this spot.



Sorry I should explain more, The villian in this had been uber active, rereraising people on flops and it was fairly obvious he was outplaying the tighter people on the table, he was defending any blind of his that was raised and he loved to 4 - 5 bet people off pots, hence I was expecting to get in to a pot allow a pot to build and take his decision away from him forcing the fold, me representing the overpair and taking advantage of my image.  It was all going to plan untill the call.

thats the part i am puzzled by

Doesn't have to be AA but wait for a hand that plays a little better than J5 to do battle with him - if he plays every pot and outplays ur weak table wait for a real hand to catch him.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2009, 06:56:13 PM »

He's obviously called you cos he's a complete donkey, for no other reason.

But....

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I just don't understand this. Why this deep are we stealing a limped pot with J5s ? You managed to stack off trying to win 120 chips.

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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2009, 07:04:16 PM »

I'm guessing its like a $50-100 tourney in which case the whole hand completely puzzles me. (I recognise the player 'Dulwich' who is relatively new blonde Ant Gaughan and I know that's the range of tourney he tends to play).

I know you said 'dont say fold pre ffs I know, I was stealing thats why i raised and was restealing' but WTF!?. You want opinions when the only reasonable thing than can be said is FOLD PRE!?

60 chips aren't worth stealing. Just fold these trash hands and you'll never get into this spot.



Sorry I should explain more, The villian in this had been uber active, rereraising people on flops and it was fairly obvious he was outplaying the tighter people on the table, he was defending any blind of his that was raised and he loved to 4 - 5 bet people off pots, hence I was expecting to get in to a pot allow a pot to build and take his decision away from him forcing the fold, me representing the overpair and taking advantage of my image.

This just seems like such a difficult plan to execute.

Surely you've got to think to yourself there must be easier ways of getting chips?

I think when he re-raises on the flop you have to admit that your steal attempt has gone horribly wrong and it's back to the drawing board. No harm in folding right here in my opinion.

p.s. As has been said his call is horrendous. I've no idea what he was thinking.  at least you had a reason for doing what you did

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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2009, 07:28:04 PM »

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He has a tell on u mate  Tongue
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