The Dean's thread

[the sicilian]

I've heard things from several different people which suggest the Dean's poker resume may be far from what he claims it is in his average-at-best advertorial style writing. You get better content on poker strategy on the PHA board...

I don't like it that he posts links on blonde which offer services for coaching and mentoring without substanciating his work (and who he is in a poker sense) and think it was only a matter of time before the knowledgeable players on blonde questioned him on this.

Questioning him is absolutely fine, Cos. Abusing him is not.

How don't people get this simple truth ?

yeah, save all your abusing for the sicilian on the luton league imo.

Never see Tikay sticking up for me... sigh FML

Nah, but you deserve it.

I may be the only one who has made a fat profit staking you, in fact.

LOL @ may be
It's getting worse, not even a beige crimplene shirt (far left in the photo below) reversed Sir Donkey's luck tonight.

Have you got an Audi RS4 chompy?

[thetank]

I was under the impression that he was an affiliate rather than a sponsored player.

[The Camel]

I was under the impression that he was an affiliate rather than a sponsored player.

http://cakepoker.com/en/thedean/Default.aspx

It's ambiguous I guess. But I'm sure I read somewhere while I trawled through alot of his stuff tonight that I read he was sponsored.

If I'm wrong, apologies.

[thetank]

Does the Dean teach at Stox? I did not know that.

[Bainn]

Phew!

Well, hopefully everyone has vented their spleens and is now more relaxed, I say let's get together, enjoy a nice cup of Tea/Coffee/Horlicks and a Ginger Nut.

[Chompy]

I've heard things from several different people which suggest the Dean's poker resume may be far from what he claims it is in his average-at-best advertorial style writing. You get better content on poker strategy on the PHA board...

I don't like it that he posts links on blonde which offer services for coaching and mentoring without substanciating his work (and who he is in a poker sense) and think it was only a matter of time before the knowledgeable players on blonde questioned him on this.

Questioning him is absolutely fine, Cos. Abusing him is not.

How don't people get this simple truth ?

yeah, save all your abusing for the sicilian on the luton league imo.

Never see Tikay sticking up for me... sigh FML

Nah, but you deserve it.

I may be the only one who has made a fat profit staking you, in fact.

LOL @ may be
It's getting worse, not even a beige crimplene shirt (far left in the photo below) reversed Sir Donkey's luck tonight.

Have you got an Audi RS4 chompy?

Nope.
Looks like you vandalised the wrong car after another early exit then imo...

[I KNOW IT]

Hi Carl,

Please can you substantiate the following claims from your site:

"“The Dean” is the nickname for one of Europe’s most prolific poker theorists and writers.". According to who?

“The Dean’s” landmark book, “Princes of Darkness:”. Who called it a "landmark book"?

“The Dean’s” reputation has grown so significantly within the industry . According to who? Noone I know has ever heard of you, except as a poster on various forums. You're growth seem to be based on self publicity.

You can't just make these claims without sources. It makes you appear shady. Add some references and then noone will doubt you.

Kind Regards,

Keith

love how you used the words "Hi Carl" and "regards" there

Not that I have to substantiate anything to the likes of you but........

I AM one of the most prolific poker writers in Europes.......look up what prolific means

blackjack book.......having read more BJ books than most then I am in the best place to know what is landmark and what isnt and there is stuff in that book that I havent seen elsewhere and am damn proud of that fact.

You havent heard of me......so what......I have only just barely heard of you, arent you some mediocre live tournament player who has been around since the thirties. Maybe you can write about some of your mediocre substantiated results. I would hazard a guess that the guys over the pond who I speak to frequently wouldnt have heard of you either.

Just to educate you a bit further......that site isnt owned by me and I am not responsible for all of the content on it but you never bothered to find that out did you.

As for your silly comments regarding Flush/WPT.... there is advanced stuff in those magazines as well and they try to cater for all skill levels. But I also write for Sklansky and Malmuths 2+2 internet magazine but thats hardly going to cut any ice with someone like you who is obviously spoiling for a fight. I am missing CL for this and wont be replying again so if you want to get the last word in then knock yourself out mate.

Regards

Carl

I've sat back and watched whilst both sides had their 'dig' at the other without judgement; trying to see both points of view along the way.  However, I have to say - Carl, for someone who is attempting to promote (protect) yourself in a positive light; you are very definitely going about it the wrong way.  Whatever history you have with Keith is irrelevant as he has asked for valid references.  If you expect people to part with their money at some point, it is in your best interest to provide those references.  

Good self promotion does not = a good buy for the consumer.  It's not like the old days when the doctor's word was law.  Even doctors, with their MD's and PhD's after their names are questioned.  Why is it unacceptable for us to question you?  Attacking potential customers is definitely not the way to go.

Laxies post sums it up perfectly for me.
 Also Camel made some very valid points which to my knowledge still remain unanswered.

On a similar note: Does anyone know how the "old fella" managed to get that stint as poker analyst on Sky Poker ffs

 

[Pab]

Hi Carl,

Please can you substantiate the following claims from your site:

"“The Dean” is the nickname for one of Europe’s most prolific poker theorists and writers.". According to who?

“The Dean’s” landmark book, “Princes of Darkness:”. Who called it a "landmark book"?

“The Dean’s” reputation has grown so significantly within the industry . According to who? Noone I know has ever heard of you, except as a poster on various forums. You're growth seem to be based on self publicity.

You can't just make these claims without sources. It makes you appear shady. Add some references and then noone will doubt you.

Kind Regards,

Keith

love how you used the words "Hi Carl" and "regards" there

Not that I have to substantiate anything to the likes of you but........

I AM one of the most prolific poker writers in Europes.......look up what prolific means

blackjack book.......having read more BJ books than most then I am in the best place to know what is landmark and what isnt and there is stuff in that book that I havent seen elsewhere and am damn proud of that fact.

You havent heard of me......so what......I have only just barely heard of you, arent you some mediocre live tournament player who has been around since the thirties. Maybe you can write about some of your mediocre substantiated results. I would hazard a guess that the guys over the pond who I speak to frequently wouldnt have heard of you either.

Just to educate you a bit further......that site isnt owned by me and I am not responsible for all of the content on it but you never bothered to find that out did you.

As for your silly comments regarding Flush/WPT.... there is advanced stuff in those magazines as well and they try to cater for all skill levels. But I also write for Sklansky and Malmuths 2+2 internet magazine but thats hardly going to cut any ice with someone like you who is obviously spoiling for a fight. I am missing CL for this and wont be replying again so if you want to get the last word in then knock yourself out mate.

Regards

Carl

HU 4 ROLLZ?

This is so golden, please have the HU 4 ROLLZ at our vegas house, free bar for anyone in the vicinty, $100 to each guest if the dean wins

Does the free bar offer extend to the players?

obv

[Longy]

Does the Dean teach at Stox? I did not know that.

No he turned them down, he isn't on the list of coaches.

[Acidmouse]

He's had this type of reaction before on other well known forums when trying to enlighten others with his articles on poker. He is fully aware on what people think of him and his articles, yet he seems to still continue to peddle his warez on various forums. I agree it's not the articles themselves that piss the majority of people off (although it would seem some people question how good they actually are), but it seems its the surreptitious nature he goes about 'providing' these to various forums. To me it just seems a front for him to make money from affiliate links and various books, websites he is involved with. It MUST be making him money somehow as he continues to pump them out for our benefit of course and take the abuse that he is rightly/wrongly getting. If he don't like how he is being treated then why continue? Kerching $

[JungleCat03]

For what it's worth, it is hard to take an english poker journalist seriously if he doesn't know who Keith Hawkins is!

When I wrote some stuff during the last WSOP there were some people who repeatedly told me, "You SUCK!!"

It would have been hard to take were it not the for the fact that most of the writers appeared to be in the midst of procreating with their cousins in their trailer as they wrote their latest diatribe, typed out furiously and inaccurately using just one of their 13 fingers. (seriously I could quote some funny s**t!)

I imagine Carl finds it harder to swallow the blonde criticism because some of the top players in the world post here so the criticism tends to be just.

I didn't read the comments on the other thread but on this thread there has been nothing particularly out of order said.  Just the usual funny blonde quips, odd amusing photo and humourous put-downs.

Maybe the other thread was worse?

I thought it was something like this...

- Hey, I've got a partially digested object that's been subjected to a vigorous waste disposal process here, what do you think?

- Isn't that a piece of s**t. Yeh, it definitely is!

- But I've stuck a badge advertising a poker site on it?

- Still a piece of s**t mate.

- Yeh but look at the waste disposal unit. It can play blackjack!

- That's cool but dude, can u stop crapping on my doorstep? Thanks

[TightEnd]

Carl will no longer be writing for blonde Poker, a mutual decision.

I'd like to thank him for the many articles sent over many months. Such virtually (ie it just cost us putting his link up) free content was invaluable, especially in these times.

[CelticGeezeer]

Hopefully now all the expert critics will step up to the plate and show Carl how it should be done.

[T_Mar]

I do not dislike Carl Sampson, and do not think that he is deliberately setting out to deceive people however I can talk from experience and and am personally glad that the likes of The Camel are calling The Dean out and questioning his credentials.

When I first started playing online poker I enlisted his coaching services, which with hindsight I think was totally lacking in terms of quality - At the time I just didn't know any better, and was in awe of one of 'Europe's finest' but as soon as I found the likes of Blonde and the Video coaching sites I could see the discrepancy in what was offered - especially with his original 'power poker course' which worked out to be a very expensive book rather than time being properly coached.

The PHA board on here has taught me more about the game than anything else - and all for free.  

I do not see myself as qualified to question anyone on their poker abilities but others on here definitely are qualified and I think its a good thing for them to  do so!

Maybe it will help others that are new to the game, reading the forum  make good decisions about where they spend their money.

[The Camel]

Of all the things Carl said, this "I AM one of the most prolific poker writers in Europes.......look up what prolific means" was the most breath takingly arrogant.

I would have thought one quality article would be more useful than the whole river of pap he has spouted. Look at his hm page: http://www.thehendonmob.com/carl_sampson/expected_value_question. There must be about 100 articles there. No wonder he has little time for playing!

And as for for being a prolific theorist. WTF does that mean exactly? He has alot of thoughts? It's just nonsense.

I would be happy to provide the odd strategy article for Blonde.

With a couple of riders:

!. Someone give me a subject to write about.. the actual writing is pretty easy, just getting an idea for an article which others would find entertaining and interesting is definitely the tough bit and it's why I gave up my column in Cardplayer.

2. There is no pressure of deadlines. I am weird mixture of lazy and busy. If I've got a spare hour, I'll knock something togther. But saying when that spare hour will be is another matter.

3. I'm not alone. I'm sure the likes of Pab, Moorman, Flushy, Trigger and the Boy Band could write something much more illuminating than I could provide.