late final table.

[TightEnd]

6 left, 5 paid

Chip leader has half chips in play 105,000
Hero 50,000
3rd-5th 20,000 to 35,000
Shorty 5,000

pay outs 1100/600/360/250/130

blinds 800-1600, last hand before 1,000-2,000

Hero raises to 5,000 UTG with 

folded to big blind. Gives it a very big Hollywood dwell and pushes 22,000 in. Each of three previous pushes on the way from recovering from 3,000 he has shown JJ+/AQ+. Patient, solid player...pushing with a very shortplayer in the dead zone

Call or fold with pocket tens?

[gatso]

even if you think his range is as tight as jj+, aq+ you have 40% equity so calling 15k to win 27.8k is trivially easy

[outragous76]

snap

[T_Mar]

You flippin against a range of 77+,AQs+,AQo+

So given pot odds its a snap call

[T_Mar]

You flippin against a range of 77+,AQs+,AQo+

So given pot odds its a snap call

gatso beat me to it

[gatso]

even if you think his range is as tight as jj+, aq+ you have 40% equity so calling 15k to win 27.8k is trivially easy

ok, it's 17k not 15 to call but still a snap esp as his range is never that tight

[GreekStein]

Raise less pre so you don't have to get into these situations where you are forced to call. 3800/4000 will do.

The dynamic changes a little bit because of the shorty on 5k which means I don't think people are ever really re-shipping hands that aren't at least flipping with you. Players nit up at these level buy ins on final tables and will happily fold 77/AJ type hands here

As played though you have to call.

[T_Mar]

Raise less pre so you don't have to get into these situations where you are forced to call. 3800/4000 will do.

The dynamic changes a little bit because of the shorty on 5k which means I don't think people are ever really re-shipping hands that aren't at least flipping with you. Players nit up at these level buy ins on final tables and will happily fold 77/AJ type hands here

As played though you have to call.

Even iof you raise 3800 you still getting 1.5/1 so doesn't change anything .. I dont think its a stretch to include 77 in his range  ??

[TightEnd]

I did call btw, merely wondered if anyone suggested the alternative of a fold

[noble1]

hmmm if you call u can only gain or lose 5.5% equity ish   - fold you only lose 1.4% equity - i'm not so sure that calling is the best option here..

[GreekStein]

Raise less pre so you don't have to get into these situations where you are forced to call. 3800/4000 will do.

The dynamic changes a little bit because of the shorty on 5k which means I don't think people are ever really re-shipping hands that aren't at least flipping with you. Players nit up at these level buy ins on final tables and will happily fold 77/AJ type hands here

As played though you have to call.

Even iof you raise 3800 you still getting 1.5/1 so doesn't change anything .. I dont think its a stretch to include 77 in his range  ??

It does make a difference. If we're looking for the best way to play the pot it doesnt include raising to over 3x bbs.

[T_Mar]

Raise less pre so you don't have to get into these situations where you are forced to call. 3800/4000 will do.

The dynamic changes a little bit because of the shorty on 5k which means I don't think people are ever really re-shipping hands that aren't at least flipping with you. Players nit up at these level buy ins on final tables and will happily fold 77/AJ type hands here

As played though you have to call.

Even iof you raise 3800 you still getting 1.5/1 so doesn't change anything .. I dont think its a stretch to include 77 in his range  ??

It does make a difference. If we're looking for the best way to play the pot it doesnt include raising to over 3x bbs.

Not saying there is anything wrong with a  smaller raise (I would also raise slightly smaller), just dont think it would make a difference to the decision whether to call the shove or not

[gatso]

hmmm if you call u can only gain or lose 5.5% equity ish   - fold you only lose 1.4% equity - i'm not so sure that calling is the best option here..

that makes no sense, you're completely igniring the cards. if tighty had AA and the BB shoved blind then the potential equity changes would still be the same but I assume you wouldn't find a fold there.

[TightEnd]

just take me through the preferability of raising smaller please?

is it because it has the same effect as a larger raise, but allows you to pass to a shove easier?

[T_Mar]

just take me through the preferability of raising smaller please?

is it because it has the same effect as a larger raise, but allows you to pass to a shove easier?

Means you can raise more frequently for cheaper - easier to fold when you are weak and can induce action for when you strong as people just think you at it