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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2009, 02:18:04 PM »

just take me through the preferability of raising smaller please?

is it because it has the same effect as a larger raise, but allows you to pass to a shove easier?

Flushy will answer this much better than me but in short its much less exploitable.

It does the same job as a larger raise but you're losing less every time you are forced to fold or are reraised etc.
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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2009, 02:27:30 PM »

hmmm if you call u can only gain or lose 5.5% equity ish   - fold you only lose 1.4% equity - i'm not so sure that calling is the best option here..

that makes no sense, you're completely igniring the cards. if tighty had AA and the BB shoved blind then the potential equity changes would still be the same but I assume you wouldn't find a fold there.


i get the point is to put villain on a range of cards that he is shoving?
we know we are getting 1.76 to 1 to call - 36% equity - yes we are hoping to be 40% against his range
i get all that i'm just asking the question from a icm point of view , prize pay outs etc plus the fact we have a baby short stack
is calling the shove the best option..just trying to discuss it... sry

i'll leave u to it.. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2009, 02:31:42 PM »

just take me through the preferability of raising smaller please?

is it because it has the same effect as a larger raise, but allows you to pass to a shove easier?

Flushy will answer this much better than me but in short its much less exploitable.

It does the same job as a larger raise but you're losing less every time you are forced to fold or are reraised etc.

does this work for a TAG...raising less frequently, stealing less frequently as it does for a LAG?
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2009, 02:32:11 PM »

raise 2.5x pre
alot of ppl dont want to "dance" when on the bubble so they wont play many pots IMO
and also small raises doesnt effect ur stack much and easier to get it away

he must have a good hand if he is hollywooding JJ+

so could fold



but if it was me i would fist pump call
coz ur life isnt on the line
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2009, 02:40:24 PM »

raise 2.5x pre
alot of ppl dont want to "dance" when on the bubble so they wont play many pots IMO
and also small raises doesnt effect ur stack much and easier to get it away

he must have a good hand if he is hollywooding JJ+

so could fold



but if it was me i would fist pump call
coz ur life isnt on the line



If my life was on the line, I would still call here
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2009, 02:41:44 PM »

just take me through the preferability of raising smaller please?

is it because it has the same effect as a larger raise, but allows you to pass to a shove easier?

Flushy will answer this much better than me but in short its much less exploitable.

It does the same job as a larger raise but you're losing less every time you are forced to fold or are reraised etc.

does this work for a TAG...raising less frequently, stealing less frequently as it does for a LAG?

Yeah of course.
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2009, 02:41:54 PM »

stop trying to level ppl tighty.
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2009, 02:42:43 PM »

stop trying to level ppl tighty.

  genuinely, I am not
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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2009, 02:44:07 PM »

just take me through the preferability of raising smaller please?

is it because it has the same effect as a larger raise, but allows you to pass to a shove easier?

Flushy will answer this much better than me but in short its much less exploitable.

It does the same job as a larger raise but you're losing less every time you are forced to fold or are reraised etc.

does this work for a TAG...raising less frequently, stealing less frequently as it does for a LAG?


Stealing blinds and antes should be mega standard on the bubble, even for a complete nit - dont know you personally but have heard people talking Wink
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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2009, 02:58:51 PM »

Is there a reason to fold this hand?
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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2009, 03:06:17 PM »

Is there a reason to fold this hand?

Yep he might have an ace and they always hit.
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« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2009, 04:07:43 PM »

Hahaha.

Raise less, Richard. They'll think you're at it.
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« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2009, 11:07:17 PM »

raise less pre to give rise to more phantom FE. dont slowroll.
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« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2009, 11:41:41 AM »

I call, if i miss i am still not dead, shorty is still short, i can still get to the money and if i win,,,  FTW  of course.

Why does this seem much easier in black and white then when in the game Smiley
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