AK Preflop

[snoopy1239]

if I make a continuation bet then I bet the pot always . This is wether I have hit my hand or not. I think this is a long term +ev play.
There was a very very good article written by one of the full tilt pro's about the amount to bet I will dig it up and PM you the link.

Cheers. Let's just say he calls a pot bet and then the turn comes a blank.

Should I tak another shot or just check?

[snoopy1239]

Okay, let's stop beating around the bush. Here's the hand.

Feel free to tear my play to shreds.


***** Hand History for Game 3125221388 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, December 01, 08:02:19 EDT 2005
Table Table  69192 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: McGeiger1004 ( $230.60 )
Seat 2: snoopy1239 ( $265.25 )
Seat 3: bigrick32 ( $96 )
Seat 4: monster_nell ( $292.97 )
Seat 5: GoldMiner112 ( $198 )
Seat 6: neoteric ( $152.60 )
Seat 7: JadeStar ( $194 )
Seat 8: eChamp2 ( $170.40 )
Seat 9: rabbit143 ( $106.70 )
Seat 10: Blufftrash ( $197 )
snoopy1239 posts small blind [$1].
bigrick32 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to snoopy1239 [  ]
monster_nell folds.
GoldMiner112 folds.
neoteric folds.
JadeStar folds.
eChamp2 raises [$7].
rabbit143 folds.
Blufftrash folds.
McGeiger1004 folds.
snoopy1239 raises [$19].
bigrick32 has been reconnected and has 14 seconds to act.
bigrick32 folds.
eChamp2 calls [$13].
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
snoopy1239 bets [$30].
eChamp2 calls [$30].
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
snoopy1239 checks.
eChamp2 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ ]
snoopy1239 bets [$15].
eChamp2 is all-In.
JJ
snoopy1239 folds.
eChamp2 does not show cards.
eChamp2 wins $234.40
nh

[Bongo]

I don't like to bet the river on a bluff after checking the turn, mainly because it screams of bluff.

[NoflopsHomer]

I'd re-raise. By becoming the aggressor, you get negate positional disadvantage.

[ACE2M]

I don't like to bet the river on a bluff after checking the turn, mainly because it screams of bluff.

I check the river if i check the turn. i am now prepared to dump it to a raise. I may have raised you on the river to with no hand.

[ifm]

I have only skimmed thru the replies in this thread but i have been doing some reading lately and here is some excellent advice that applies to this situation.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3342313&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1&vc=1

[ifm]

Also when you reraise you then take on the betting momentum, whereas if not he then has it and is pretty much obliged to bet if you check a big hand

[thetank]

Advantages of re-raising pre-flop.

1. Someone behind you may tip off the strength of their hand, allowing you to get away relatively cheaply.
2. You could take the pot down right there
3. Easier to get all the money in when an A or K flops.
4. You can bet first when rags fall on flop, might take him off the same hand/wee pocket pair having represented a big pair yourself by taking the lead.
5. Most importantly - Calling is for woofters!

If rags fall, I like to bet a decent pot sized amount or thereabouts, the reason for this is that my opponent will only call if he can beat me. Now I know where I am. I will not need to fire another barrel on the turn or sticking in a (that river bet wants you hit on the beak with a rolled up newspaper snoopy) desperation river bluff.
If he calls a pot sized bet on the flop, I can fold with complete confidence should he bet later on.

[matt674]

Advantages of re-raising pre-flop.

1. Someone behind you may tip off the strength of their hand, allowing you to get away relatively cheaply.
2. You could take the pot down right there
3. Easier to get all the money in when an A or K flops.
4. You can bet first when rags fall on flop, might take him off the same hand/wee pocket pair having represented a big pair yourself by taking the lead.
5. Most importantly - Calling is for woofters!

If rags fall, I like to bet a decent pot sized amount or thereabouts, the reason for this is that my opponent will only call if he can beat me. Now I know where I am. I will not need to fire another barrel on the turn or sticking in a (that river bet wants you hit on the beak with a rolled up newspaper snoopy) desperation river bluff.
If he calls a pot sized bet on the flop, I can fold with complete confidence should he bet later on.

<note to self> call tigmong's preflop raises with garbage then when he misses and checks down on turn and river stick in bluff bet on river to take pot......

[ifm]

<note to self> call tigmong's preflop raises with garbage then when he misses and checks down on turn and river stick in bluff bet on river to take pot......

shhhhhhh.....................

[jezza777]

Why are you betting the river here snoop? There is a bucket load of chips in the pot and you are betting $15?! Ok a flush card has hit so I can see the reasoning  but if you want this pot here then you have to move all in . I doubt he would fold but some players would .

Following a called continuatin bet I then back off depending on my hand. With ace high i definately back off.  If he checks it down then fine but any substantial bet from him on a laret street and I'm gone.

[snoopy1239]

Why are you betting the river here snoop? There is a bucket load of chips in the pot and you are betting $15?! Ok a flush card has hit so I can see the reasoning  but if you want this pot here then you have to move all in . I doubt he would fold but some players would .

Following a called continuatin bet I then back off depending on my hand. With ace high i definately back off.  If he checks it down then fine but any substantial bet from him on a laret street and I'm gone.

I made that river bet so I could take the pot if he has AK.

[snoopy1239]

I put him on either JJ, QQ, or AK.

So I thought it was worth $15 trying to steal a big pot if he doesn't have the overpair.

[matt674]

shhhhhhh.....................

Thats why i said <note to self>!!!!!! 

[jezza777]

Ok see the logic there are a few hands he could have that you beat ak, or Ax- even some funky str draw that missed . I am gonna have to think about that bet some more.